It’s everything you’d expect from All In With Chris Hayes, and so much less … less common sense, less intellectually honest, and less respectful of faith. Renowned Jesuit author Fr. Jam4063894889?profile=originales Martin looks at times like he’d accidentally wandered into a lunatic asylum during this segment, and after watching five minutes of Chris Hayes and Harvard’s Christopher Robichaud treat the now-cancelled “black mass” event like an actual religious practice rather than a hate-speech mockery of the Catholic Mass, Fr. Martin will not be alone in that confusion:

Martin offers a very close analogy when he suggests that Harvard wouldn’t have tolerated the burning of a Koran, even if wrapped in pseudo-religious practice. Muslims see that as a desecration of their religion, just as Catholics see the “black mass” — and given the nearly step-by-step mockery of Catholic liturgy in the latter, Catholics have a much better case to make. The entire point of this “service” is hatred towards Catholics in particular. Instead of addressing this point, though, both Hayes and Robichaud accuse Martin of spouting “false equivalencies” and start moaning over the power of “major religions” to keep the “marginalized” out of the debate.

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Father Martin is not some finger-wagging, down-shouter of a shepherd (all-pulpit-no-pasture and forever on the harangue), and because that is true, and because his easygoing manner is well-known, you would think that his sobriety, here — his stark refusal to budge on the subject of Satanism, and the offensiveness inherent to any Black Mass being “re-enacted” in the public — would make an unusually strong impression on the host, Chris Hayes, and other guest.

You might think it, but sadly, you’d be wrong. No one in this video clip is thinking, “gee, Martin is no lunatic, and his gravity is palpable, so maybe there’s more to this than I know…” Rather, Hayes seems incapable of fully masking his amused condescension toward Martin’s concerns, and is willfully choosing not to hear his words; the two men prefer to travel campus-comfortable tracks, ranging from the predictable to the bigoted to the silly, with a side-trip to pick up a straw man. …

Notice, Martin addresses the “Black Mass” situation on Harvard Extension’s own terms. That body characterized the insult as a “cultural” event and compared it to a re-enactment of a Shinto Tea Ceremony; Father Martin suggests that a similar “re-enactment” of an anti-semitic or racial horror, like a lynching or a cross-burning, would quite rightly be a denounced as having no place on any campus or indeed in any public place. Why, then, would the mockery of the Catholic Mass be an acceptable insensitivity?

The answer does not come. Instead Hayes and Harvard’s Christopher Robichaud tries to rebut with overarching smugness. Unable to admit “rem acu tetigisti”, Robichaud suggests that Martin is intellectually “sloppy” and risks credibility by rejecting the priest’s very accurate question as a “false equivalency”; his argument essentially boils down to this: “marginalized communities” deserve sensitivity protections and respect, but “big powerful religions” do not. I wonder if he’d be fine, then, with a public burning of the Koran, since Islam, claiming a billion members, is a “big powerful religion.”

He and Harvard would most certainly not be fine with that. They would chalk that up as oppression of a marginalized community too, although the true motives would almost certainly be a little more in line with their survival instincts.

The chief absurdity, though, comes from the religious-liberty equivalency argument Hayes and Robichaud make in regard to the Satanists and the “Pastafarians,” a juvenile and tiresome satirical group of atheists mocking religious practice in general. The event was not staged as a religious event but a cultural event, and in any case the controversy wasn’t about the rights of Satanists to do what they do on their own property. It was about Harvard’s decision to host and sponsor the event, directly and indirectly, while claiming to be opposed to hate speech, marginalization, etc etc etc. Religious freedom wasn’t the issue at all, but that was the dodge Hayes and Robichaud used.

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  • Mr. Jones: If you want to see an example of what Satan has accomplished in this world just look at our leader and his minions. There's a perfect example of his work. I have no doubt that Mr. Obama is the Devils Advocate. He stands for all the vile, filth and corruptness that's reared it's evil head in our country and in other countries. It's not a pretty sight.  

  • Billie Jones: What don't you understand about Satan? All through the Bible it tells us that Satan is evil. Any angel that's so bad that God had to kick him out of Heaven isn't to be trusted. God offers us so much. What does Satan offer? And I have to correct you. Satan is NOT God of this world! Who ever put that thought into your mind? Oh yes, a Satanist. The Bible tells us that Satan is king of all deceivers. Anyone who believes he tells the truth is sorely misguided. And he has opened our eyes to nothing except the evils he wants carried out by the human race. He doesn't offer us everlasting life in the hereafter, He doesn't tell us to love one another. In short, he doesn't offer us anything constructive. You say not all Satanists are bad people. I'll go along with that. But they are sad, misguided people and I would never trust one. If they continue to worship Satan there will be no hope for them in the end. He won't end their pain and suffering because he thrives on it! He hates the mortal humans. He is in a constant battle with God to win over us through false promises that we cannot trust. Christians have been taught to hate Satan and all he stands for. Yes, I hate him and at the same time I feel sorry for all the weak minded people who have fallen for the lies and false propaganda that Satan is good and one to be followed. You sir, have a right to follow anyone or any so-called religion you want and to you I can only say, Good Luck, and we don't mind you looking down on us because someday we Christians will be the ones looking down on you.

  • Take YOUR satan and stick him straight up YOUR ass!

  • A Country Founded by Geniuses but Run by Idiots!

    If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but
    not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might
    live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or
    to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might
    live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a
    check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not
    to vote for who runs the government — you might live in a nation that
    was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from
    owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty
    F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a
    nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but
    not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make
    you fat — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is
    run by idiots.

    If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a
    wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman
    in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head
    searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but
    is run by idiots.

    If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions
    of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a
    nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his
    teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class
    in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation
    that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more
    government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with
    Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free
    cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses
    but is run by idiots.

    If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to
    provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment
    checks, without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was
    diligently sought, but couldn’t be found — you might live in a nation
    that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest
    big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a
    wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government
    forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a
    nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself
    makes you more “safe” according to the government — you might live in a
    nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If the media panders to your openly socialist leader while the IRS targets groups with dissenting views— you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If your government 'cracks down' on legal gun sales to law abiding citizens while secretly supplying illegal guns to Mexican drug cartels— you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If your local government (Chicago) outlawed gun ownership for 'the safety of its citizens' and now boasts the worst murder rate in the country — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    What a country!

    How about we give God a reason to continue blessing America

    This was borrowed from another blog, please spread it far and wide!

  • The Whack-Jobs at MSNBC should get no attention, they are unworthy of comment.

  • How about those that practice beastiality? Or those that eat fecal matter. What about their rights?

  • I'm sorry, but there is no room for Satanists in this country that was founded on God. So they can take their Satan psycho dribble and go elsewhere with it. Maybe to some far off sand land or some uncivilized jungle where the Godless people live. They would fit in nicely if they don't kill each other off, which would be no great loss. Call me what you want. Name calling won't hurt me because I just plain don't care anymore.

  • Where is the UN? Disneyland.

  • I hope Mr. Hayes feels the same way about the worship of Khali.  Perhaps he's willing to be the next sacrifice - all in the name of inclusion.

  • Matthew 23:9

    And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

    Matthew 23:8-10 (in Context) Matthew 23 (Whole Chapter) Other

    Jesuit Priesthood is not Biblical, so what is the real purpose of "The order of Jesus"? Trained infiltrators, instigators, collaborators and assassins. 

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