The Most Dangerous and Treacherous Times in U.S. History! (Part 91)

Please Read Part 89:

The Most Dangerous and Treacherous Times in U.S. History! (Part 89)-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On November 15, 2018:

Please Read Part 90:

The Most Dangerous and Treacherous Times in U.S. History! (Part 90)- Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On November 15, 2018:

The following recent article revealed that newly obtained audio tapes revealed President Trump complaining about the Obama Administration’s efforts to spy on his campaign and that had roles been reversed it would have amounted to 'treason'-You Decide:

Treason’: Trump Rips Obama For Spying on His Campaign!-Posted on The Political Insider-By Rusty | Featured Contributor-On November 27, 2018:

Note:  I believe that the information revealed in the following recent articles and video relates to and/or further supports the disturbing information revealed in the above thought-provoking article regarding 'Obama Administration's efforts to spy on President Trump's campaign’-You Decide:

Donald Trump

Trump’s Latest Warning to “Treasonous” Enemies His Most Stark to Date: The left is NOT going to like this!-Posted on Flag & Cross-By Andrew West-On November 28, 2018:

Video: Alex Jones Predicted It: Trump Set To Go After Deep State Cronies: President retweeted image of Obama cronies - including Comey, Hillary, Podesta - behind bars!-Posted on News Wars-By November 28, 2018:

Video: Maximum Alert! Trump Tweets Plan to Investigate Deep State for Treason as China Publicly Threatens to Launch War Against United States: Ladies and gentleman, we are living in the most incredible historical developments. Whatever you do, share this with your friends and family!-Posted on News Wars-By The Alex Jones Show-On November 28, 2018:

Trump threatens to declassify ‘devastating’ docs about Democrats!-Posted on The New York Post-By Marisa Schultz and Nikki Schwab-On November 28, 2018:

Video: Ep. 860 President Trump is Holding All the Cards. The Dan Bongino Show 11/28/2018!-Posted on Dan Bongino-On November 28, 2018:

Video: Trump: When do the trials for treason begin?-Posted on American Intelligence Media-On November 28, 2018:

Video: Trump Just Signaled All Patriots, It Has Begun,Justice Under The Law - Episode 1727b!-Posted on X22Report-On November 28, 2018:

Trump: Mueller 'Witch Hunt' Discredited, a 'Hoax'!-Posted on Sandy Fitzgerald-On November 29, 2018:

Video: Bombshell! Trump Set to Release Devastating Docs on Hillary and the Democratic Crime Syndicate Controlling the Deep State!-Posted on News Wars-By Kelen McBreen-On November 29, 2018:

Donald Trump Explains Why Rod Rosenstein Belongs ‘Behind Bars’!-Posted on The Political Insider-By Jim E-On November 29, 2018:

Video: Know, Locked And Loaded, All In Place, Picture Worth Many Sentences - Episode 1728b!-Posted on X22Report-On November 29, 2018:

Video: Trump Warns DECLAS Bad, Something Public Should Not See, Start The Clock - Episode 1729b!-Posted on X22Report-On November 30, 2018:

Video: Boom, [HR[D]C] Panic, Dec 5, Another Whistleblower, Nothing Can Stop What’s Coming - Episode 1730b!-Posted on X22Report-On December 2, 2018:

Video: Lift Off On 1.1.19, Courts-Martial Around The Corner - Episode 1731b!-Posted on X22Report-On December 3, 2018:

Something quite HUGE is about to go down: Martial Law, Military Tribunals or Both?-Posted on State of the Nation-On December 20, 2018:

Video: GHWB Funeral – The Envelope Affair!-Posted on Seething Frog-On December 24, 2018:

Video: The Mysterious Bush-Clinton Funeral Envelope and Catch 22 Game Theory!-Posted on Bravo Von Muller-On December 11, 2018:

Video: Dave Janda – Hammer of Justice Falls in 2019!-Posted on Greg Hunter-On December 29, 2018:

Video: Justice Is Coming, Nothing Can Stop It, Cover Up Exposed, Fear, Panic - Episode 1753b!-Posted on X22Report-On December 30, 2018:

Video: They Didn’t See This Coming, Firewall Built, Now The Border Wall - Episode 1757b!-Posted on X22Report-On January 4, 2019:

2019: The Year Deep State Gets Demolished!-Posted on State of the Nation-On January 6, 2019:

Servando Gonzalez

The Rise And Fall Of The New World Order!-Posted on Servando Gonzalez-On January 11, 2019:

Video: Insurance Policy Has Expired, Caught In A Trap - Episode 1758b!-Posted on X22Report-On January 6, 2019:

Video: Marker, One Year Ago, Goodbye [RR] - Episode 1761b!-Posted on X22Report-On January 9, 2019:

Video: Ep. 893 What are they Hiding? The Dan Bongino Show 1/14/2019!-Posted on Dan Bongino-On January 14, 2019:

Video: [DS] Digging Their Own Hole, Treason - Episode 1765be!-Posted on X22Report-On January 14, 2019:

Video: Ep. 894 The Spy Game Explained. The Dan Bongino Show 1/15/2019!-Posted on Dan Bongino-On January 15, 2019:

Video: Trump's "Hammer time" For Obama, Brennan & Clapper!-Posted on Operation Freedom-On January 15, 2019:

Video: Ep. 895 Liberals Will Never Leave You Alone. The Dan Bongino Show 1/16/2019!-Posted on Dan Bongino-On January 16, 2019:

Video: Shadow Players Are The Deadliest, [Stealth] Has It’s Advantages, [Boo] - Episode 1778b!-Posted on X22Report-On January 29, 2019:

Video: [Old Guard] Exposed, The Truth Overshadows The Propaganda - Episode 1783b!-Posted on X22Report-On February 4, 2019:

Video: Message Sent To [DS] & Anons During The SOTU, Patriots In Control - Episode 1785b!-Posted on X22Report-On February 6, 2019:

Video: It’s Time, Senate Was Everything, Investigations Begin - Episode 1786b!-Posted on X22Report-On February 7, 2019:

Video: [HRC] Firewall Removed, Protection Gone, 3-2-1, Boom - Episode 1789b!-Posted on X22Report-On February 12, 2019:

Video: Phase III, Rats In DC Panicking, Pain, Event Warning [10] - Episode 1792b!-Posted on X22Report-On Feb 15, 2019:

Video: Barr & Placeholders Activated, S/M Blackout, Think EAS - Episode 1795b!-Posted on X22Report-On February 19, 2019:

Video: Think Mirror, This Is A Battle Between Good And Evil, Patriot’s Move Coming - Episode 1803b!-Posted on X22Report-On February 28, 2019:

Video: It’s Happening, Senate Activated, Update To Countdown - Episode 1810b!-Posted on X22Report-On March 8, 2019:

Video: Narrative Fight Coming, It’s Time To Unite & Take-down The True Enemy - Episode 1818b!-Posted on X22Report-On March 18, 2019:

Video: The Sleepers Are Now Awake, [DS] Panics And Traps Themselves, Plan Advances - Episode 1819b!-Posted on X22Report-On March 19, 2019:

Video: Blockade Dismantled, Counting Down, Patriots Turn, Rats Scattering - Episode 1823b!-Posted on X22Report-On March 24, 2019:

Video: [Knowingly], Treason, Sedition, #Flagsout - Episode 1828b!-Posted on X22Report-On March 29, 2019:

Video: America For Sale, Ukraine & China In The News, News Unlocks - Episode 1833b!-Posted on X22Report-On April 4, 2019:

Video: Panic In DC, Mueller Report Incoming, Criminal Referrals Just The Beginning - Episode 1837b!-Posted on X22Report-On April 9, 2019:

Video: Something Big Is Coming, The Hunters Move In On Their Prey - Episode 1838b!-Posted on X22Report-On April 10, 2019:

Video: We Have The Source, Optics Are Important, PANIC In DC- Episode 1839b!-Posted on X22Report-On April 11, 2019:

Video: Mueller Report Coming, News Cycle Shifts, Think Timing, Another One On Its Way - Episode 1842b!-Posted on X22Report-On April 15, 2019:

Video: Hidden Info Inside The Mueller Report Will Be Used To Expose The Email Coverup - Episode 1845b!-Posted on X22Report-On April 18, 2019:

Video: [DS] Fear, Hopelessness, Anger, Second Act Begins, Justice - Episode 1856b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 1, 2019:

Video: Did You Catch It, Trump Sends A Message To Obama, Boom - Episode 1860b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 6, 2019:

Video: DS] Black Sites In Process Of Being Removed, Next Phase Coming - Episode 1861b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 7, 2019:

Video: [DS] Didn’t See This Coming, The Secret Weapon Revealed - Episode 1867b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 14, 2019:

Video: [DS] Begins To Turn On Each Other, The Cover-Up Always Gets You In The End - Episode 1868b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 15, 2019:

Video: The Call Is Loud And Clear, Those Who Committed Treason, Go Directly To Jail - Episode 1870b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 17, 2019:

Video: Something Big Is About To Happen, Time Marker Set, Barr Puts [DS] On Notice - Episode 1874b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 22, 2019:

Video: Did You Catch What Mueller Just Did, [DS] Sends A Message - Episode 1880b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 29, 2019:

Video: [DS] Cornered, This Why The [DS] Will Be Exposed - Episode 1881b!-Posted on X22Report-On May 30, 2019:

Video: Flynn Shifts To Offense, Something Big Is About To Happen - Episode 1886b!-Posted on X22Report-On June 6, 2019:

Video: Drip, Drip, Drip, The Great Awakening, This Is The Storm - Episode 1887b!-Posted on X22Report-On June 7, 2019:

Video: Scope Of Durham’s Investigation Broad, Trump 24/7/365, Message Received - Episode 1890b!-Posted on X22Report-On June 11, 2019:

Video: Flynn Is On The Hunt, Public Awakening Cannot Be Stopped - Episode 1891b!-Posted on X22Report-On June 12, 2019:

Video: Durham’s Secret Weapon, [DS] Setup, Panic, Server Brings Down The House - Episode 1892b!-Posted on X22Report-On June 13, 2019:

Video: Blacksite Dismantled, New Deal Coming, Boom - Episode 1895b!-Posted on X22Report-On June 17, 2019:

Video: Resignations, Peace, Patriots Know It All, Planned Years Ago - Episode 1896b!-Posted on X22Report-On June 18, 2019:

Video: It’s Time, Placeholders, Future Comms Set, [On The Ready], For Our Country - Episode 1903b!-Posted on X22Report-On June 28, 2019:

Video: It’s Happening, Power Returned To The People, Truth & Transparency - Episode 1905b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 1, 2019:

Video: Inspector General Investigation Complete, WH Says It’s Hammer Time - Episode 1906b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 2, 2019:

Video: Was Marker [1] Just Revealed, Was A Message Sent To The [DS]? - Episode 1909b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 5, 2019:

Video: Security Cameras, Unsealed, Much Will Be Revealed, Watch The News For [RC] - Episode 1911b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 8, 2019:

Video: Storm Has Arrived, Now It’s The Patriots Turn, It’s Happening - Episode 1912c!-Posted on X22Report-On July 9, 2019:

Video: Be Ready, B2 Stealth Bomber, Roundup Begins Soon - Episode 1923b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 22, 2019:

Video: Raids, Timeline & The Message Of Treason - Episode 1924b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 23, 2019:

Video: Year Of The Boomerang, Timing Is Everything, Force Of Nature, Sheep No More - Episode 1925b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 24, 2019:

Video: Placeholders, Patriots Positioning, Blocks Removed, Locked And Loaded - Episode 1926b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 25, 2019:

Video: Manchurian Candidate, Stealth Bomber, Special Package Delivery - Episode 1927b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 26, 2019:

Video: Trials Begin Shortly, All Will Be Exposed, Conspiracy No More - Episode 1928b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 28, 2019:

Video: Arrests Must Be Made Before The Election, They Have To: Robert David Steele!-Posted on X22Report Spotlight-On July 27, 2019:

Video: Voter Id Coming, Investigations Deep & Wide, Watch The News- Episode 1930b!-Posted on X22Report-On July 30, 2019:

Video: Lies Are Being Exposed, The Awakening Momentum Is Gaining Speed: Harley Schlanger!-Posted on X22Report Spotlight-On August 3, 2019:

Video: We All Have A Part To Play, The Raid Has Begun, Conspiracy No More - Episode 1941b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 12, 2019:

Video: It Was All Harvested, FISA Goes Both Ways, Sky Is Falling - Episode 1942b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 13, 2019:

Video: [C] Before [D], It’s Getting Ready To Blow - Episode 1944b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 15, 2019:

Video: Drip, Drip, Prepped And Ready, Enjoy The Show - Episode 1945b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 16, 2019:

Video: Voter Manipulation, Message Sent & Received, Why Greenland? - Episode 1948b!-Posted X22Report-On August 20, 2019:

Video: Message Decoded, Public Rollout Of Declass, Complete Transparency - Episode 1949b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 21, 2019:

Video: Panic, Message Evergreen, Public Discovers Illegal Surveillance - Episode 1951b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 23, 2019:

Video: The Perfect Storm Is Forming, It Will Not End Well For Many - Episode 1952b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 25, 2019:

Video: Perfect Storm Confirmed, Horowitz Concludes 4 FISA Warrants Illegal - Episode 1953b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 26, 2019:

Video: What We Have Been Waiting For Is Coming, We Have The Ultimate Weapon - Episode 1954b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 27, 2019:

Video: The Chosen One, The First Wave Is About To Hit - Episode 1955b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 28, 2019:

Video: Fell Right Into The Trap, Next Wave Coming, Pain - Episode 1956b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 29, 2019:

Video: Placeholders Ready, Declas, Indictments, Will Force WW Coverage - Episode 1957b!-Posted on X22Report-On August 30, 2019:

Video: Exculpatory Evidence, August Was Hot Month, Next Wave Incoming - Episode 1958b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 1, 2019:

Video: Desperation Sets In, See Something, Say Something, Brace For It, Incoming - Episode 1959b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 2, 2019:

Video: Declas Brings Down The House, Equal Justice Under The Law - Episode 1961b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 4, 2019:

Video: Confirmation, The Swamp Is Being Drained, We Knew This Day Would Come - Episode 1962b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 5, 2019:

Video: Think Timing, Senate Locked, SC Locked, Locked & Who Is Loaded - Episode 1963b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 6, 2019:

Video: Message Marker [1], Alabama, There Are No Coincidences - Episode 1964b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 8, 2019:

Video: [DS] Moves To Get Ahead Of FISA Story, Big Fail, Messages Sent About A Bad Man - Episode 1966b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 10, 2019:

Video: Placeholder Filled, Flynn Free Next, The World Is Waking Up, Attacks Intensify - Episode 1967b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 11, 2019:

Video: Prosecutions On Deck, This Is Just The Beginning, [DS] Pain Coming - Episode 1968b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 12, 2019:

Video: D5 Avalanche, Could Gouge The Landscape, Take Cover, Incoming - Episode 1969b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 13, 2019:

Video: This Is Not A Game, [DS] Attacks Intensified, Barr Receives Report - Episode 1970b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 15, 2019:

Video: Operatives Hunted Down, [DS] Plan Backfired, No Place To Hide - Episode 1971b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 16, 2019:

Video: We Are (Closer) Than You Think, Messages Received, On The Ready - Episode 1972b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 17, 2019:

Video: Horowitz Delivers The Bad News To Comey, More Pain Coming - Episode 1973b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 18, 2019:

Video: Setup Needed Before Declass, Tarmac Back In The News, Prisons Prepped - Episode 1974b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 19, 2019:

Video: Setup Complete, Ukrainian Scandal Revealed, [DS] Whistleblower Agenda Fail - Episode 1975b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 20, 2019:

Video: Did You Catch What Happened, Second Wave Just Hit, Carpet Bombs Dropped - Episode 1976b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 22, 2019:

Video: The Punisher Has Been Released, 2019 Year Of The Boomerang - Episode 1977b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 23, 2019:

Video: [DS] Took The Bait, They Are Going For It, Wait For It, Boom - Episode 1978b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 24, 2019:

Video: [DS] Failed Again, Think Mirror, More Panic & Pain Coming, Next Wave Begins - Episode 1979b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 25, 2019:

Video: [DS]/MSM Scrambling, Patriots Getting Ready To Strike Again - Episode 1980b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 26, 2019:

Video: Sleepers Present Problems, Trump Holds The Power, This Is Not About A 4 Year Election - Episode 1981b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 27, 2019:

Video: Why Is The [DS] Panicking, There Is Only One Word That Describes It “Treason” - Episode 1982b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 29, 2019:

Video: Fear, Panic Sets In For The [DS], They Will Never Try This Again, Targets Locked - Episode 1983b!-Posted on X22Report-On September 30, 2019:

Video: Did You Catch What The Patriots Are Doing, It’s PERFECT, Wait For It.. - Episode 1984b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 1, 2019:

Video: The Patriots Are Over The Target, Watch What Happens Next - Episode 1985b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 2, 2019:

Video: Panic Sets In For Brennan, Schiff In Trouble, This Is Just The Warmup - Episode 1986b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 3, 2019:

Video: The Call Has Gone Out, Military Planning Strategically Boxed In The [DS] - Episode 1987b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 4, 2019:

Video: Chatter Intercepted, High Alert, Patriots Ready To Counter The Next Event - Episode 1988b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 6, 2019:

Video: The [DS] Hits Roadblocks, Access Denied, Sum Of All Fears - Episode 1989b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 7, 2019:

Video: The Gathering, The Storm Is Here, It’s Happening, Time To Harvest - Episode 1990b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 8, 2019:

Video: Harvest Confirmed, Pelosi’s Impeachment Irrevocably Tainted, Hammer Introduced - Episode 1991b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 9, 2019:

Video: Bombshells Dropped, HB, BO Missing? IG FISA Report On The Way - Episode 1992b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 10, 2019:

Video: Impeachment Coming Apart, WB Revealed?, [DS] Is Trapped - Episode 1993b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 11, 2019:

Video: Fear Is Flushing The [DS] Out, The Only Way Forward, Expose, Transparency & Truth - Episode 1994b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 13, 2019:

Video: The Swamp Is Draining Themselves, The Message Is Clear, Stay Alert - Episode 1995b!-Posted on X22Report-On October 14, 2019:

Please Read Part 103A:

The Most Dangerous and Treacherous Times in U.S. History! (Part 103A)-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On March 27, 2019:

Please Read Part 92:

The Most Dangerous and Treacherous Times in U.S. History! (Part 92)-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On December 1, 2018:

Note:  I also believe that the extremely disturbing information revealed in the above articles and videos relates to and/or further supports my following blogs-You Decide:

Letter to our NM U.S. Representative Michelle Lujan-Grisham (re: Shadow Party’s alleged agenda to take down America)!-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On February 13, 2015:

Obama is the Manifestation of a Multi-Generational Soviet Plot to Destroy America!-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On April 2, 2014:


When A U.S. President IS Muslim Brotherhood!-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On August 17, 2014:

CIA-Columbia Cover Up!-Posted on April 28, 2010:

Why did a black preacher from Harlem have a 'hit' placed on his life?-Posted on October 19, 2010:

Was Obama Pre-selected & Groomed To Be Our U.S. President & Take Down America to Usher In The NWO Due To His CIA, Communist and Muslim Connections & Influences?-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On November 16, 2016:

Obama: Submit to Globalism or Face War, Death, Destruction!-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On November 17, 2016:


Investigators Find That Obama's Online Birth Certificate Presented To The American Public Is 'Fake'!-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On December 15, 2016:

Peace is possible if Trump is elected.

Not Since JFK, Has a President Spit Into the Face of the Globalists, Until Now!-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On November 21, 2016:

The MSM conglomerates are the most prolific and insidious "fake news" propagators in the marketplace of ideas!-Posted on Tea Party Command Center-By Jake Martinez-On November 30, 2016:

Note:  The following videos wholeheartedly share my sentiments regarding what we are currently experiencing in America today-You Decide:

A Republic, If You Can Keep It!

The Fightin Side of Me!

When Injustice Becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty!

“Food for Thought”

Hello: Are Americans Going To Wake Up and Take a Stand Against The Deplorable Obstructionists That Are Doing Their Utmost To Take Down Our Democratically Elected President, His Administration and Ultimately Destroy our Country/Republic?-God Bless America!

Please Continue Praying For Our Country/Republic.
Semper Fi!

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Comment by Bonnie Somer on November 30, 2018 at 1:59pm

many are waking up 

our kids need to be taught by their parents about America and why she is great

this is an abuse of power to b sure  

it is all out there in the open.  



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YIKES!!! Chelsea Clinton Emphatically States A Person With A Beard And A Penis Can ‘Absolutely’ Identify As A Woman

  • The one issue Hillary and Chelsea don’t appear to agree on entirely is transgender self-identification
  • In an interview with The Sunday Times, journalist Decca Aitkenhead asked the Clintons about transgender self-identification
  • Chelsea Clinton replied ‘yes’ emphatically when asked if someone with a beard and penis can ever be a woman
  • ‘It’s going to take a lot more time and effort to understand what it means to be defining yourself differently,’ Hillary said
  • Aitkenhead said Hillary became ‘uneasy’ when the question was asked while Chelsea shot a ‘furious stare’ at the journalist as her mother answered
  • Hillary added: ‘It’s a very big generational discussion, because this is not something I grew up with or ever saw’

(Daily Mail) – It may appear Hillary and Chelsea Clinton always see eye-to-eye, but in a recent interview one topic cracked the facade of the like-minded mother-daughter power duo.

The one issue Hillary and Chelsea don’t appear to agree on entirely is transgender self-identification.

In an interview with The Sunday Times, journalist Decca Aitkenhead asked the Clintons if someone with a beard and a penis can ever be a woman, to which Chelsea replied emphatically, ‘Yes.’

However, as Aitkenhead describes it, Hillary looked ‘uneasy’, and blamed generational gaps for being less accepting.

‘Errr. I’m just learning about this,’ Hillary responded. ‘It’s a very big generational discussion, because this is not something I grew up with or ever saw. It’s going to take a lot more time and effort to understand what it means to be defining yourself differently.’

The Clintons sat sown with Aitkenhead to promote the book they co-authored, The Book of Gutsy Women: Favorite Stories of Courage and Resilience.

The book features Danica Roem, the first trans woman elected to a U.S. state legislature.

According Aitkenhead’s account, she tells Hillary during the interview that many British feminists of Hillary’s generation have a problem with the idea that a ‘lesbian who doesn’t want to sleep with someone who has a penis is transphobic.’

Hillary nods in agreement, while Chelsea ‘stiffens and stares at me’, according to Aitkenhead.

The journalist then adds that many women of Hillary’s generation are uncomfortable with biological males sharing women’s bathrooms.

‘I would say that, absolutely,’ Hillary nods firmly. ‘Absolutely. Yes.’

That’s when Chelsea begins shooting a ‘furious stare’ at Aitkenhead, who points it out to her.

‘I’m a terrible actor’, Chelsea laughs.

Chelsea then says she is thrilled with the National Health Service’s decision to assign patients to single-sex wards according to the gender they identify as, instead of their biological make up.

‘How can you treat someone if you don’t recognize who they feel and know in their core they are?’ Chelsea says.

‘And I strongly support children being able to play on the sports teams that match their own gender identity,’ she adds. ‘I think we need to be doing everything we can to support kids in being whoever they know themselves to be and discovering who they are.’

At this point Hillary looks conflicted.

‘I think you’ve got to be sensitive to how difficult this is,’ Hillary says. ‘There are women who’d say [to a trans woman], ”You know what, you’ve never had the kind of life experiences that I’ve had. So I respect who you are, but don’t tell me you’re the same as me.” I hear that conversation all the time.’

Despite the clear tension in the room, the pair say they don’t argue about this topic.

But according to Aitkenhead, ‘I get the impression they don’t like to present anything less than a united front to the world.’


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