When Donald Trump proposed mandatory deportation of illegal aliens, pundits and politicians on both sides of the political aisle were appalled. But on this issue it looks like Trump has the public on his side.
The fire from the right was almost as fierce as that from the left. "It's not conservative and it's not realistic and it does not embrace American values," said Jeb Bush.
Sen. Lindsey Graham called it "absolute gibberish."
Conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer called the idea "crackpot" and "morally obscene."
But the prize for overheated rhetoric goes to Hillary Clinton, who said Trump wants to "literally pull people out of their homes and their workplaces, round them up, put them, I don't know, in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border."
So what do these folks say about the fact that the majority of Americans back Trump on this?
The latest IBD/TIPP Poll asked 913 adults coast to coast if they "support or oppose mandatory deportation of illegal immigrants in the U.S." Not surprisingly, 87% of Trump supporters back the proposal.
California may be run by crazies, but there is a large cadre of intelligent folks of all races and ethnicities. In 1994, there was a Proposition 187 on the ballot to stop giving illegals government benefits and health care except in dire emergencies.
The bill passed with a 78% majority.
Of course, after an extended battle, a "progressive" communist judge was selected to review the ballot and he determined that it was unconstitutional. Leftists blame this on the demise of the Republican Party in CA.
The tens of billions it has cost California taxpayers, bankrupted hospitals and clinics and destroyed the Mexican family structure cannot be calculated.
Like Lyndon Johnson's Great Society destroyed the black family, the overturning of the proposition created a large population of government dependency of a people that are traditionally hard working and proud.
Why is it that a 78% majority cannot upend and boot the crazies?
...and why haven't they called for impeachment of the commie judge?
A man should have no concern for the thought of another if what they represent is sin, like Tresspassers, perverted gays, transvesters, murder's (Abortions) and so on, ALL forbidden now forced on our children. That's called rape of your morality, a war crime. Done here to us citizens and our children, to prove Islam is right, our leaders have produced a place of sin, is what Islam needed, proof....
I know someone from Mexico and they believe that we owe it to them and their people to let them come into this country illegally. Also if these people want to protect these illegals then let them feed, house, and take care of them with their own money. I am getting sick of these liberal scum acting like illegals are the best thing since slice bread. And democrat bob casey calls them undocumented citizens .
I don't see Carson as promoting a pathway to Citizenship that is any different from out existing laws.....guest workers, yes.....but they would not be citizens.
Only by tried and true application can a guest worker become a citizen.
Now, if Congress mucks up current law and opens floodgates, that is a different horse.
But I do not see Carson advocating for opening any floodgates.
Check my reply to Joanne
click here .... My Reply
Have you read Dr. Carson's stance on Immigration Reform? He wants to create a Guest Worker Permit like Canada offers. He doesn't get it.
Canada's southern border is America.
America's southern border is the gateway to Hell...3rd world countries of Mexico, Central America, South America and every 3rd world loser from any country who wants to illegally cross our border. He is comparing apples to oranges.
Trump has a great plan: Build the wall & deport illegals. Period.
Eisenhower deported illegals to give jobs back to returning servicemen from WWII. Other presidents did it and history does not record it. Google it and see that this is standard practice before liberals decided to destroy America. Other eras actually wanted to embrace and protect America and the America worker. Then came the liberals.
I hear that Ben Carson is going up in the polls. That worries me. Will he have the same agenda to deport illegals? Nothing else matter right now but the border sealed, illegals deported and the Iran Deal stopped. Day Two - go to our liberal propaganda educational system and stop brainwashing our school children with anti-American history and sociology. Day Three - stop this insane practice of no term limits for our Congressmen/women!!! Tell the Supreme Court they need to go back to the Constitution and quite changing the Constitution. STATES RULE - YOU JERKS!! You do not!!! Our Congressmen/women no longer represent America or our voice. They are strictly in it to bow to peer pressure of the Chief Mucky Muck (does any other title better fit Obama???).
What does Ben Carson actually say, anyway??? I know what Trump says and he is our only hope. I don't think Carson has the same moxie - and believe me, after Obama - we need moxie!!!! I could care less about the estimated cost of deportation. It is either deportation or the loss of the American culture and political system.
Strange that you voiced concern about Carson's position on immigration.
I received , from Ben Carson, one of the most sincere packages ever ffrom a politician.
In it he lists 12 reasons why he would make a good President.
Notably none of those address immigration.
There is a website...votesmart...that has catalogued candidates positions. It states the Carson, like most all other candidates would NOT go on the record on a number of issues.
Click here.... The votesmart website
For Immigration they provide a link to his position
Click here......... Carson Immigration Prescription
His comments are not as forceful as Trump's but it appears the cover letter to his "Pledge" request he does say ...we must secure our borders
but in the link he lays out a sensible plan that includes border protection, employers, and guest workers. To be a guest worker, one has to leave the USA to re-enter legally.
He does not address "anchor babies"
So, I think in his quiet, reserved way is is for sensible immigration.
It would be so much easier if they would just say...we start by enforcing existing law....and consider other facets later...........even if they are pressed into details, they can use event triggered milestones vs time triggered milestones.
So....I feel ok with Dr Carson but would encourage him to be more forceful on immigration and give it higher priority
Dr. Carson would make a great Surgeon General.
Thank you my911. I agree that straight talk is more to my liking. Every word carefully monitored is difficult to process for specifics. That is why I love Donald Trump! Everyone gets his message loud and clear! He has no patience with protocol or legislatures or analysis. Trump fully understands that he has to use all the power of the presidency to undo all the power that Obama gave the presidency.
I do like Ben Carson but I think our nation is too far gone for him. We need Trump.
And, since my husband just told me that Obama has the votes for the Iran Deal, I am going to sign off in disgust AGAIN from this Tea Party discussion site! I had to quit the Tea Party chats (again in disgust) after the miserable Republican vote to support Obama's amnesty. Now, our miserable Republican congressmen/women are going to vote to allow his Iran Deal. There is no longer any point in politics. It is hopeless and we are stupid pawns in a political system that does not represent us.
I think Trump and Carson are both saints to sign on to that world, but I think they and Cruz have the true grit to help America. However, with our current system of putting lifers in Congress, we are a doomed nation. Thank the Supreme Court for that one. I want the list of Republicans who vote for Obama's Iran Deal and for them to be harassed by the Tea Party members for the rest of their lives.
We talk and talk and then our own elected misrepresent our orders. It is no longer God Bless America. It is God Help America!