Five IMPORTANT Facts You Did Not Know About This Flag

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Published on June 20th, 2015 | by Allen West Republic


Five IMPORTANT Facts You Did Not Know About This Flag


The confusion caused by the similarity in the flags of the Union and the Confederacy was of great concern to Confederate General P.G.T. Beauregard after the first Battle of Manassas. He suggested that the Confederate national flag be changed to something completely different, in order to avoid confusion in battles in the future. However, this idea was rejected by the Confederate government. Beauregard then suggested that there should be two flags. One, the National flag, and the second one being a battle flag, with the battle flag being completely different from the United States flag.

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  1. This is not the National Flag of the Confederacy. It is a battle flag.  Three national flags were tried before the final design was settled on:

  • The first National flag design looked too much like the Union Flag and caused confusion in commanding armies in maneuvers.



  • The second one looked too much like a surrender flag when there was no breeze and it was hanging limply..

2nd flag

  • A vertical red bar was added to the third and final version of the Confederate national flag.

3rd flag


  1. The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northern Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. It was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

  1.  The Battle Flag was not called the Stars and Bars. It was called the Southern Cross.

  1.  The original Battle Flag design was a square flag and not a rectangle.

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  1.  No Confederate flag was ever flown on a slave ship.  English, Dutch, Portuguese, and the New England States ships were used in the slave trade.

This article was created by Paul Clark and Tanya Grimsley (NOT ALLEN WEST)

It is necessary to disclaim any connection of these flags to neo-nazis, red-necks, skin-heads and the like. These groups have usurped this flag and desecrated it by their acts. They have no moral right to use this flag – it is a flag of honor, designed by the confederacy to distinguish itself from the Union  .

In fact, under attack, it still flies over the South Carolina capitol building. The South denies any relation to these hate groups and denies them the right to use the flags of the confederacy for any purpose. The crimes committed by these groups under the stolen banner of the confederacy only exacerbate the lies which link the secession to slavery interests when, from a Southerner’s view, the cause was to distinguish itself from the Union.

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The Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag

The Confederate Battle Flag has been under the gun of groups that tend to lead people in the wrong way to its inception. These groups, which place forth the ideas that the flag represents hate and slavery cannot produce a single document to support these ridiculous claims. In fact, all the documents that have been found show the contrary to be true. I must point out that the Confederate Battle Flag never flew as a State Flag, since its sole purpose was to distinguish the two armies from each other. It has become the most misunderstood and abused symbol in our great nation.

These groups that claim the Confederate Battle Flag to be a flag aligned with such hate groups as the KKK, Neo Nazis, Skin Heads, and others really do not know what they are talking about. They can only remember what happened back in the 50's and 60's. They cannot fathom the facts that the flag was born in 1861. Many people call the Confederate Battle Flag the "Stars and Bars." The Stars and Bars came to be on March 4, 1861, when the Committee on a Proper Flag for the Confederate States of America wrote
That the flag of the Confederate States of America shall consist of a red field with a white space extending horizontally through the center, and equal in width to one-third the width of the flag. The red space above and below to be the same width as the white. The union blue extending down through the white space and stopping at the lower red space. In the center of the union a circle of white stars, corresponding in number with the States in the Confederacy

This can be found in the Journal of the Congress of the Confederate States of America, 1861-1865, Volume 1 (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1905), pp.101-102. The story goes that the flag was flown over the capitol building in Montgomery, Alabama. It was raised up the staff by Miss L.C. Tyler, the granddaughter of John Tyler, the 10th President of the United States. This was presented by Ben LeBree ed., The Confederate Soldier in the Civil War, 1861-1865 (Louisville: The Courier-Journal Job Printing Company, 1895), p.2. As can be seen, nowhere in this description of the "Stars and Bars" is there any mention of it being done for the protection of slavery or hate. As a matter of fact, none of the flags of the Confederacy were ever described in their placement to represent anything other than the Confederate States of America. And the Stars and Bars represented the flag of the Confederacy; the Confederate Battle flag was used extensively in the Battles.

The Confederate Battle Flag, which has stirred so much controversy, was designed by General P.G.T. Beauregard, who was born and raised in the Parish of St. Bernard, Louisiana, just over 12 miles from New Orleans. The Confederate Battle Flag was conceived after (I emphasize "after" because in many pictures of the battles, the Battle flag is shown when it was not even used) the battle of First Bull Run (Manassas). It was during the battle that General Beauregard realized that a battle flag was needed. The General was expecting troops to come into battle from the right; instead they came in from the left. He could not distinguish the flag of the troops coming in from the left through the dust and smoke. Just before he was about to send a column to attack the advancing troops, a wind blew and unfurled the flag, he then noticed it was the First National Flag and the reinforcements he was waiting for. It was then that General Beauregard decided that a distinct flag was needed during the battles yet to come, so as not to be confused again. General Beauregard's design was a blue field, crossed red bars, and gold stars. It was only after much discussion that it was changed into what it is today, a red field crossed with blue bars with white stars.

The first flag of this design was called the Battle Flag of the Army of the Potomac. The flag was approved in September of 1861 by commanding General Joseph E. Johnston. The pattern was then submitted to and approved by the War Department. From that point throughout the war, the Battle Flag was carried by Confederate troops.

This can be found in Materials Relating to Flags (New Orleans: Tulane University Special Collections), Louisiana Historical Association Collection. In United Confederate Veterans, The Flags of the Confederate States of America (Baltimore:A. Hoen & Co.1907), it is described as follows:

The Battle flag is square, with a Greek Cross of blue, edged with white, with thirteen equal five-pointed stars, upon a red field; with the whole banner bordered in white. The Infantry, Artillery, and Cavalry all used the Battle Flag, but in different sizes. Infantry being 48 inches square; Artillery 36 inches square and the Cavalry 30 inches square. The proportions of the Infantry flag are: 48 in. by 48 in. (exclusive of the border); the blue arms of the cross, 7.5 in. wide; the white border around the flag proper 1.5 in. wide. Total outside measurement is 51 in. square. The stars are five-pointed, inscribed within a circle 6 in. in diameter, and are uniform in size. There should be 5 eyelet holes in the hoist next to the staff. The Artillery and Cavalry flags are designed upon the same proportions, but the overall measurements are reduced.

As can be seen by this description, nowhere in any of the designs or ideas is there any mention of slavery or hate. The flag design was done to keep the loss of lives down and to be used as a rallying point that could be distinguished during battle. The Sons of Confederate Veterans adopted the Confederate Battle Flag as part of their logo in 1896, long before any hate group began to abuse the flag. They did this to honor all the men who died while fighting behind the Confederate Battle Flag. To these men and women, this is a tribute to their ancestors. They, like many others, do not like the wrongful abuse of the Confederate battle Flag by the hate groups that use it to promote their wrongful ideas.

It wasn't until the late 1950's and 1960's that the Confederate Battle Flag was used by the KKK and other hate groups. Those that use the flag to honor their ancestors do not promote the hate and stupid ideas that those who abuse it do. There are many blacks who also respect the flag due to the fact that their ancestors served with the Confederate Army. The Confederate Battle Flag was designed to save lives in July of 1861; it was approved for use in September of 1861. What is brought forth when a person or group condemns the Confederate Battle Flag is the total ignorance of the history behind the flag and the facts surrounding it. It is these misunderstood facts that have tempered an otherwise honorable flag into a flag of controversy.

In an opinion in the Houston Chronicle, Jerry Patterson puts forth a very good argument about the abuse of symbols. Mr. Patterson stated: "Since the KKK has adopted the cross for use in its burnings, should churches across the country remove this symbol of Christianity from all places of worship? Should we not begin to tear down monuments to the Buffalo Soldiers (Black U.S. Cavalry troops of the late 1800's), since those soldiers were an integral part of a war that subjugated and enslaved a whole race of people, the American Plains Indians?"

In this, Mr. Patterson brings forth the question of where we should stop the displacement of history for the sole purpose of being "politically correct." Also, this shows that if we can tolerate these instances, whether right or wrong, we should be able to tolerate the Confederate Battle Flag. Not only has the Confederate Battle Flag been wrongly and falsely accused of being racist, but recently, even pictures of Southern generals have been assailed for just being Southern. These actions are reminiscent of Stalin and Hitler, as they did the same thing to histories that they did not want.

Former President of the Asheville, North Carolina, Branch of the NAACP has stated without restriction:

"Protection of Confederate symbols is THE civil rights issue of the new millennium, and this debate is long overdue. We must address this issue with peaceful, non-violent means like debate before agitation over the flag gets out of hand."

Mr. Edgerton is a black man and a life member of the NAACP. His views are very different from the majority of the NAACP membership, but he is proud to defend the Confederate Battle Flag. Look through any documentation that you can find and I am very sure that no one will ever find a document that clearly states that the Confederate battle Flag was designed specifically for the purpose of slavery and hate. Those who harbor these ideas are ignorant of the facts as the facts are written. The people who promote this ill-founded idea do so not to heal but to obtain money for their cause. If they could find a better way to raise money, they would not worry about the Confederate Battle Flag.

To those groups of people who have brainwashed the masses into thinking that the Confederate Battle Flag represents slavery and hate, I say unto you, "Let you be the first to condemn me and I shall show you how wrong you are with documented facts. Facts that you cannot accept because they are so very true." Many of these same groups make statements like, "We do not accept or encourage stereotyping of anyone." Yet, in this arena, they are the first to stereotype the Confederate Battle Flag.

The Confederate Battle Flag is an honorable symbol of those many men who died fighting for what they believed in. They came from every walk of life and from every culture in the North and South. Not to honor them with the Confederate Battle Flag would be like not even acknowledging that the War for Southern Independence ever happened. This should never happen.

Early in 1956, the Southern states began planning on how to observe the 100th anniversary of the War for Southern Independence, from hereon known as the Civil War. Some of these states decided to use the flag in their state flag or to raise it below the United States flag. Others decided to obtain a proclamation to observe the 100th anniversary of the Civil War.

A joint resolution was placed upon the floor of both houses of Congress to study and coordinate the observance of the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. Both houses passed the resolution on September 7, 1957, to establish the Civil War Centennial Commission to coordinate the observance.

Many people have placed a fictional idea that the Confederate Battle Flag was raised in defiance of the civil rights movement. Maybe the civil rights movement actually used the Centennial to promote their activities.

Not one single person who says the Confederate Battle Flag was used in defiance of the civil rights activities will ever admit that it was done as an observance of the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. To admit this fact would be to admit that they are wrong in assuming otherwise. Their information and stories are blown apart by the facts and documents that prove what they have said about this to be wrong.

On December 6, 1960, a little more than three years after the first indication of an attempt to organize an observance by Congress, President Dwight D. Eisenhower did something that has been overlooked when discussion of the Confederate Battle Flag comes up. It was on this day that President Eisenhower issued a proclamation declaring observance of the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. It was labeled Civil War Proclamation No. 3882. In this proclamation, President Dwight D. Eisenhower, "invited all of the people of our country to take a direct and active part in the Centennial of the Civil War."

This took effect on December 6, 1960, just as the civil rights activities were starting. Coincidence, or perfect planning? The proclamation and observance originated in late 1956. It was done to observe and honor those who fought on both sides and to better understand what had happened. In the South, it was a chance to raise the Confederate Battle Flag, not in defiance of the civil rights movement, but to honor the men and women who died fighting under the flag for what they believed.

By bringing civil rights into question, many reflected upon slavery, and these same people also condemned and planted the seed that the South fought to preserve slavery. The civil rights activities also drew attention away from the Presidential Proclamation to observe the centennial of the Civil War. All these activities came together at the same time. President Eisenhower even stated that we should recognize the spirit of America after such a crucial war. President Eisenhower asked Federal, state, and local officials to carry out their own appropriate observance of the Centennial during the years of 1961 to 1965.

It is amazing how the truth can be totally forgotten and covered up just to perpetuate what has now become Political Correctness. How can we as a people stand by and allow our history to be dictated by any group for the sake of an idea? Our country was not formed to fall into this madness of Political Correctness. The Confederate Battle Flag is just, as its name implies, a battle flag, used to rally the troops of the South and distinguish the men fighting—nothing more. To state that it represents slavery and hate shows the total ignorance and stupidity of those making the statement.

The Confederate Battle Flag has come under tremendous action in the last ten years. The attacks upon the Battle Flag have come from only a few groups who make their money from certain actions they take. It comes as no surprise that these same groups have come to be known affiliates with people who have communistic ideals, and such ideals cannot continue with acts of freedom and expression that are associated with the Confederate Battle Flag.

It is a shame that our once great country has fallen down to accept the actions of the few even over the voice of the majority. In all too many cases, the few have yelled so loudly that they get what they want, even when the majority feels otherwise. Now, our country makes decisions based upon who is offended rather than upon Constitutional rights. Germany was much the same way in the late 30's and early 40's.


Wake Up America, tell these people to take a hike!!!

Awake yet America, this is part of our heritage certain people don't like it tough, I don't like  a lot of crap that these people are doing to our Country..Some day push will be coming to shove...



I've been looking through the threads for a picture I saw last evening. it was making the point that the confederate flag in a lone wolf terrorist's hands is being used as representing the entire south but a lone wolf Islamic terrorist doesn't represent the whole of islam.  I'm thinking you may have posted it, if so - can you point me to it or post it again, I'd like a copy.

Hoorah! I may not be from the South but I believe in the 'Right to Be Free!" Long live the South because she a goin' to raise again.





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Fact Check:   'Joe Biden Claims ‘We Didn’t Lock People Up In Cages’

CLAIM: Former Vice President Joe Biden claimed, on immigration: “We didn’t lock people up in cages.”

VERDICT: FALSE. The “cages” were built by the Obama-Biden administration.

Univision moderator Jorge Ramos asked Biden at the third Democrat debate at Texas Southern University in Houston, Texas, why Latinos should trust him after the Obama administration continued deporting “undocumented immigrants.”

Biden claimed that the Obama administration’s policies were more humane than those of President Donald Trump: “We didn’t lock people up in cages,” he said.

In fact, the “cages” were built by the Obama administration to deal with a surge of unaccompanied minors who crossed the border illegally in 2014.

Originally, the Obama administration was “warehousing” children — literally — in overwhelmed Border Patrol facilities. Breitbart News broke the story of the surge, which was partly triggered by Obama’s policy of allowing illegal alien children who entered the country as minors to stay in the country (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA).

Above image credit: AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin, Pool, File

The above photo was published by the Associated Press in June 2014, and the photo below is of Obama’s Secretary of Homeland Security, Jeh Johnson, touring a Border Patrol facility with “cages.”

Above: Border Patrol officers escort Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and Gov. Jan Brewer through the department’s Nogales processing facility for immigrant children. (Photo courtesy Barry Bahler/Department of Homeland Security)

The “cages” are chain-link enclosures in Border Patrol processing facilities that are meant to protect children from adults in custody. They are not permanent accommodations.

In mid-2018, as the Trump administration began enforcing a “zero tolerance” policy that stopped the “catch-and-release” policy of letting illegal aliens go after they were arrested. Detaining adults and children meant that children had to be processed separately; the enclosures prevented adults from harming children.

As Breitbart News reported at the time, children were not housed in “cages.” They were processed and then taken to shelters, where they were given medical care, toiletries, education, recreation, and counseling, and where staff attempted to find relatives or sponsors to whom they could be released.

Democrats began tweeting images of “kids in cages” to condemn the Trump administration. Journalists, too, shared those images.

One problem: they were taken during the Obama administration.

Public outrage at the images led President Trump to end the policy, and require families to be detained together.

Democrats keep repeating the mistake, however: in July, they had to delete a tweet that used an image from the Obama era and cited the “inhumane treatment” of children by the Trump administration.

Republicans argue that not detaining illegal aliens is actually the cruel policy, because it encourages migrants to undertake a dangerous journey, often guided by cartels and smugglers.

As Breitbart News’ Alana Mastrangelo noted recently:

But what’s worse than “cages,” however, are reports of migrant children also being handed over to human traffickers during the Obama administration — while Biden was vice president — according to the New York Times. Between October 2013 and July 2015 alone, nearly 80,000 unaccompanied children from Central American countries were detained by U.S. authorities.

It remains unclear how many of the tens of thousands of children were handed over to human traffickers — including sex traffickers — during that span of nearly two years, as those cases are reportedly not tracked.

“Others were ransomed by the very smugglers to whom their families paid thousands of dollars to sneak them into the United States,” reported the New York Times in 2015, during Obama’s presidency and Biden’s vice presidency. “Some lost limbs during the journey or found themselves sold into sexual slavery.”

Biden told voters in South Carolina last month that he would close all border detention facilities, guaranteeing that the migrant flow would continue.

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