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The Supreme Court series of decisions referred to as ONE-MAN-ONE-VOTE1 causedSenator Dirksen in the 60s to muster an amendment effort. "Dirksen was a firm opponent of the doctrine of one man, one vote on the grounds that large cities (such as Chicago in Dirksen's home state of Illinois) could render rural residents of a state powerless in their state governments.”2 Madison's in the first paragraph Federalist No. 10 says democracy is a, “mortal diseases under which popular governments have everywhere perished.3

One-Man-One-Vote creats a democracy. Hillary Clinton won the majority of votes with a tiny portion of counties: 57 out of a total of 3,141 counties. Those counties turned the state block votes to Hillary, City-State.

President is not elected by the popular vote.  America is a Federation of STATES so the effect of the senate seat College of Electors turned the results. History of federations are much better then the history of democracites. I can not think of one major empire that didn't create federation style government in practice.8861145461?profile=RESIZE_710x

The Supreme Court one-man-one-vote decision actually doesn't create equal representation. Equal size voting districts doesn't address vote dilution coming from qualitative issues. Gerrymandering of the district boundaries lessens minorities from being heard. Comparing the preferences of two or more people can never be done in a value-free, "objective" way.

House Representatives per the Constitution and state laws already required electiions to follow the one-man-one-vote simplistic head count principle.4 House of Representatives can prevent any legislation it doesn't like. House of Representatives approval vote is required to turn legislation into law.  One-man-one-vote overstepped the minimum action needed.5

The colonies didn't trust each other. The founders formed the United States of America, a federation not a single nation democracy? Outside threats were much greater then those between colonies. The limited enumerated powers listed in the Constitution applies to all branches focus on either outside common threats or reducing friction between states.6

Cities do not trust each other they compete for businesses and workers. Towns do not trust other towns and cities. Rural areas are no different. If you look at the time spent interacting outside where people obtain daily life needs it is quite small. What you do not know you do not trust. This created some level of trust.8861149881?profile=RESIZE_710x

Prior to the Supreme Court series of decisions ONE-MAN-ONE-VOTE, 49 states had freely chosen federation style of government, bicameral legislatures modeled after the Constitution, a Senate elected by federation members state regions. Madison would say the Senate representing region would stop the folly that has destroyed every democratic government that has arose in history. “[T]he most common and durable source of fractions has been the various and unequal distribution of property. . . . A land interest, a manufacturing interest, a mercantile interest, a moneyed interest, with many lesser interests, grow up of necessity in civilized nations, and divide them into different classes, actuated by different sentiments and views 7 Just having a bicameral legislature increased the difficulty of agreement and being elected by different regions compounds the difficulty of creating a majority cabal faction.

1See overturned Colegrove v. Green, 328 U.S. 549,556 (1946); start with Baker v. Carr, 369 U.S. 186 (1962); Wesberry v. Sanders, 376 U.S. 1 (1964); Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964); Kirkpatrick v. Preisler, 394 U.S. 526 (1969);White v. Regester, 412 U.S. 755(1973); Abrams v. Johnson, 521 U.S. 74,98 (1997); Connor v. Finch, 431 U.S. 407, 419 (1977); Karcher v. Daggett, 462 U.S. 725(1983); Thornbury v. Gingles, 478 U.S. 30 (1986)

3 www.thefederalistpapers.org Madison, Federalist Paper No. 10 p. 52

4Grant M. Hayden, “The False Promise of One Person, One Vote”, Maurice A Deane School of Law at Hofstra Univ. No. 11-2003 footnote 16 within Wesberry, 376 U.S. At 7-18 (explaining that the historical context of the constitutional requirement that representatives be chosen “by the People of the several States” demands use of the equiproportional standard). p. 215, 218

5The Constitution of the United States 14th Amendment section 2; 15th Amendment section 1; 17th Amendment which doesn't specify equiproportional standards; 19th Amendment; 24th Amendment; and 26th Amendment.

6Ibit Article 1 section 8, 9, & 10; 16th Amendment; Article 2 section 2; 1st, 9th, and 10th Amendments.

7 www.thefederalistpapers.org Madison, Federalist Paper No. 10 p. 53 - 55

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define "real spending cuts," Boehner said, "It is time to start talking about trillions" of dollars, instead of the billions and tens of billions debated in earlier budget battles this year.  So if we use his last statement about the continuing resolution cuts.  This means:   About$10B actual unique cuts starting from his promise to the American people of $100B.   We can assume each trillion will represent and actual $100B in cuts.

 

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Birth cert. SO WHAT, Focus on SPENDING

     Obama's Birth Certificate, SO WHAT!  He can not be removed from office even if he was not born in the USA.  The congress will not impeach Obama.  Education history of Obama also does not matter.  Lincoln's education history and Bush's history did not matter.  Clinton, Kennedy, etc. sexual histories did not matter. 

     Focus on the big issues,  First SPENDING,  Second REMOVING THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOURTH BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.   Note the first and second issues are tightly intertwined. 

    First Put Ryan's Budget in place.  Which will require not increasing the debt ceiling as the lever to force the adoption of the Ryan's Budget, and likely shutting down the government.   Remind people that both have occurred in the passed and we the citizens outside Washington DC area DID NOT EVEN NOTICE THE EFFECT, THAT IS WHY WE DO NOT REMEMBER IT.

    The effect of shutting down the government is to shut down the fourth branch of government.  So get after the weak representatives and remind them that by republicans' unanimously passing the Ryan budget with full knowledge that it would not reach the floor of the senate they made a promise to us the citizens of the USA.  We hold them to this promise.

 

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Boiling Frog Syndrome

The honorable Speaker of the House John Boehner and Senate Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell represent the mind set of long seated Republicans and Democrats.  Picture John and Mitch relaxed in a bath tub with a small fire keeping the water at hot tub temperature.  The fire represents spending exceeding revenue.  Obama and the Democrats used the recession to added a lot of fuel to the fire.  John, Mitch, and the representatives and senators that have been in Washington DC for years are comfortable in the hot tub.  They will not change their actions as the water is heated to a boil.  The leadership keep telling the new representatives to get into the relaxing hot tub and that the water is still comfortable.  In reality they may be able to stand the hot water, however; stay in it and the heat will dull feelings.  Their first responds is to jump out.  Its our job to remind them to get out and stop putting fuel on the fire.  Ask them if removing a few twigs will reduce the heat from the large chunks of wood, spending from the fourth branch of government added by Obama, Boiling Frog Syndrome?

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