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Former first lady Michelle Obama took a dig at President Trump and his administration, saying she and former President Barack Obama “never could’ve gotten away” with what the current White House occupants do.

The former first lady made the remarks while having a discussion about race and the expectations placed on black Americans in the latest episode of her Spotify podcast, released Wednesday.

The episode was focused on parenting, families and race and featured Obama’s mother, Marian Robinson, and her brother, Craig Robinson.

Race was prevalent throughout their discussion, during which Obama explained how “almost everybody” she knows has had “some kind of incident where they were just minding their own business but living black, and got accused of something.”

Obama continued by saying that from a young age, black children are taught that they have to exceed expectations in order to be viewed as though they are enough.

“You’re taught, you know, people are going to assume the worst of you. So you’ve got to be better than, you’ve got to be 10 times better than,” she said.

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