The Senate secured the 50 signatures needed to prevent the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) -- a document signed by State Secretary John Kerry that threatens Second Amendment rights of American citizens -- from taking effect. "The letter, with its 50 signatories, ends any prospect in the foreseeable future of Senate ratification of the ATT," The Heritage Foundation notes. Senator Mark Kirk (R-IL) was the lone Republican who rejected the pledge -- hardly surprising considering the state he resides in. We applaud the Senate for disavowing this legislation. Right Hook [Good, this was a foolish action by Kerry and thank goodness the Senate put a stop to it.]

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  • I realize this particular forum is related to the UN Treaty.  But the people who read this site may not read the others, So while we tout the great thing the Senate did we unintentionally mask another problem which the House is working on.  Street talk is that 33 House Republikrats are looking for a way to get a vote on amnesty before the end of the year.  Great attention should be given to this clandestine attempt to slide the vote through without us knowing.  In the interest of space I will list the names, the rest is up to you.

    Mark

     

     

    Amodei

    R-Nv 

    Spencer

    Bachus

    R-Al

    John

    Boehner

    R-Oh

    Eric

    Cantor

    R-Va

    John

    Carter

    R-Tx

    Jason

    Chaffetz

    R-Ut

    Mike

    Coffman

    R-Co

    Jeff

    Denham

    R-Ca

    Mario

    Diaz-Balart

    R-Fl

    Sean

    Duffy

    R-Wi

    Renee

    Ellmers

    R-NC

    Bob

    Goodlatte

    R-Va

    Michael

    Grimm

    R-NY

    Joe

    Heck

    R-Nv

    Darrell

    Issa

    R-Ca

    Sam

    Johnson

    R-Tx 03

    Michael

    Kelly

    R-Pa

    Peter

    King

    R-NY

    Raul

    Labrador

    R-Id

    James

    Lankford

    R-Ok

    Devin

    Nunes

    R-Ca

    Ted

    Poe

    R-Tx

    Trey

    Radel

    R-Fl

    David

    Reichert

    R-Wa

    Ileana

    Ros-Lehtinen

    R-Fl

    Paul

    Ryan

    R-Wi

    Aaron

    Schock

    R-Il

    Chris

    Stewart

    R-Ut

    Fred

    Upton

    R-Mi

    David

    Valadao

    R-Ca

    Greg

    Walden

    R-Or

    Daniel

    Webster

    R-Fl

    Don

    Young

    R-Ak

      

  • I haven't read all the other posts on this site, but in reference to Kerry signing a UN treaty. That is  basically null and void. According to article II section 2 of the Constitution of the United States the president is the only one who can sign a treaty and that's after the Senate has ratified it, or visa/ versa.  Regardless, the bottom line is Kerry has no power in this matter. 

    Another thing that comes into play is that a treaty according to Reid versus Covert 1957 case, indicates that a treaty cannot violate the Constitution of the United States. Geofroy versus Riggs (1890) is  another case which states that a treaty cannot violate the Constitution of the United States.   A lot of people believe the president and congress can change the Constitution without using Article 5.  The founding fathers specifically put Article V in the original Constitution so the States and Congress would have the ability to change the Constitution.  Article V requires both the States and the Feds to agree on the changes.  

    There is nothing in the Constitution which allows the President to arbitrarily change the Constitution by Executive Order either.    

  • "The existing order is breaking down at a very rapid rate, and the main uncertainty is whether mankind can exert a positive role in shaping a new world order or is doomed to await collapse in a passive posture. We believe a new order will be born no later than early in the next century and that the death throes of the old and the birth pangs of the new will be a testing time for the human species."
    Richard A. Falk, in an article entitled "Toward a New World Order: Modest Methods and Drastic Visions," in the book On the Creation of a Just World Order (1975)

    "My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order." ~ Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)

    "A New World Order" Title of article on commencement address at the University of Pennsylvania by Hubert H. Humphrey, printed in the Pennsylvania Gazette (June 1977)

    The renewal of the nonproliferation treaty was described as important "for the welfare of the whole world and the new world order." ~ President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, in The New York Times (April 1995)

    "Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order."
    Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations (December 1988)

    "We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt's and Winston Churchill's vision for peace for the post-war period." Richard Gephardt, in The Wall Street Journal (September 1990)

    "We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order…. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order. An order in which a credible United Nations can use its peace keeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN’s founders." ~ President Geo. H. W. Bush, television address, 9/1990

    "How I Learned to Love the New World Order" Article by Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. in The Wall Street Journal (April 1992)

    ‘The affirmative task we have now is to create a new world order, because the global order is changing again, and the institutions of the world worked so well in the post-World War II era for decades, they need to be strengthened, and some need to be changed."
    Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. speech before the Export-Import Bank Conference in Washington, D.C. (April 2013)

    "All nations must come together to build a stronger, global regime." ~ President Barrack Obama, Prague, Czech Republic, 4/5/09

    “Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
    - David Rockefeller,  autobiography, "Memoirs," (2002) page 405

  •  "In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all." ~ Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

     "We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." ~ Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950

     "The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." ~ Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844 called Coningsby, the New Generation

     "The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans. " ~ British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876

    "To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day. This country belongs to the people. Its resources, its business, its laws, its institutions, should be utilized, maintained, or altered in whatever manner will best promote the general interest. ~ Former Republican President Theodore Roosevelt, The Progressive Party (Bull Moose Party), 1912

     "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." ~ Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)

    "It will avail nothing to discuss in detail the League (of Nations) Covenant which was conceived for world super-government. In this existing League of Nations World Government with it's superpowers, this Republic will have no part." ~ Republican President Warren G. Harding, 1920

     "The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." ~ New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

     "From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." ~  Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in l922.

     "We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world." ~ Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June l931 speech before the Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen.

     "The government of the Western nations, whether monarchical or republican, had passed into the invisible hands of a plutocracy, international in power and grasp. It was, I venture to suggest, this semioccult power which....pushed the mass of the American people into the cauldron of World War I."~ British military historian Major General J.F.C. Fuller, l941

     "For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support.

    "The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.

    "The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."~ Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law

    "The bank, Mr. Van Buren, is trying to kill me, but I will kill it." ~ President Andrew Jackson, Said to Martin Van Buren (8 July 1832)

     "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." ~ A letter written by Pres. F. D.Roosevelt  to Colonel House, November 21st, l933

     "The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes." ~ Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

     "Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure." ~ Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times.

     "Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite." ~ Senator William Jenner, 1954

     "The case for government by elites is irrefutable" ~ Senator William Fulbright, Former chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, stated at a 1963 symposium entitled: The Elite and the Electorate - Is Government by the People Possible?

     "The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system ,they will rule the future." ~ U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies.

     "The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups." ~ Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, highly esteemed by his former student, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.

     "The Council on Foreign Relations is "the establishment." Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship." ~ Former Congressman John Rarick, 1971

    "The planning of UN can be traced to the 'secret steering committee' established by Secretary [of State Cordell] Hull in January 1943. All of the members of this secret committee, with the exception of Hull, a Tennessee politician, were members of the Council on Foreign Relations. They saw Hull regularly to plan, select, and guide the labors of the [State] Department's Advisory Committee. It was, in effect, the coordinating agency for all the State Department's postwar planning." ~ Professors Laurence H. Shoup and William Minter, writing in their study of the CFR, "Imperial Brain Trust: The CFR and United States Foreign Policy." (Monthly Review Press, 1977).

     "The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world peace. What they strive for would inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for "the purpose of promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government." ~ Harpers Magazine, July l958

    "The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day's sun and a new world order is being born while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming sorrow." ~ Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915

    "The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world." ~ M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919)

    "If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands."~ Dr. Augustus O. Thomas, president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a New World (1931)

    "... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people." ~ H. G. Wells, in his book entitled The New World Order (1939)

    "If totalitarianism wins this conflict, the world will be ruled by tyrants, and individuals will be slaves. If democracy wins, the nations of the earth will be united in a commonwealth of free peoples, and individuals, wherever found, will be the sovereign units of the new world order." ~ The Declaration of the Federation of the World, produced by the Congress on World Federation, adopted by the Legislatures of North Carolina (1941), New Jersey (1942), Pennsylvania (1943), and possibly other states.

    "He [John Foster Dulles] stated directly to me that he had every reason to believe that the Governor [Thomas E. Dewey of New York] accepts his point of view and that he is personally convinced that this is the policy that he would promote with great vigor if elected. So it is fair to say that on the first round the Sphinx of Albany has established himself as a prima facie champion of a strong and definite new world order."  Excerpt from article by Ralph W. Page in The Philadelphia Bulletin (May 1944)

    "Alchemy for a New World Order" Article by Stephen John Stedman in Foreign Affairs, CFR (May/June 1995)

     "The United Nations, he told an audience at Harvard University, 'has not been able, nor can it be able, to shape a new world order which events so compellingly demand.' ... The new world order that will answer economic, military, and political problems, he said, 'urgently requires, I believe, that the United States take the leadership among all free peoples to make the underlying concepts and aspirations of national sovereignty truly meaningful through the federal approach.'"~ Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, in an article entitled "Rockefeller Bids Free Lands Unite: Calls at Harvard for Drive to Build New World Order" -- The New York Times (February 1962)

    "The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order."~ Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs, CFR (October 1967)

    "If instant world government, Charter review, and a greatly strengthened International Court do not provide the answers, what hope for progress is there? The answer will not satisfy those who seek simple solutions to complex problems, but it comes down essentially to this: The hope for the foreseeable lies, not in building up a few ambitious central institutions of universal membership and general jurisdiction as was envisaged at the end of the last war, but rather in the much more decentralized, disorderly and pragmatic process of inventing or adapting institutions of limited jurisdiction and selected membership to deal with specific problems on a case-by-case basis ... In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."~ Richard N. Gardner, in Foreign Affairs, CFR (April 1974)

  • Mr. Pastoria - I find the best way to explain it is in their own words. That way, it's not an argument you are involved in, you are just passing information and if they want to argue, they can argue with themselves:

    "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country." ~ Edward Bernays, "Propaganda," 1928

    "The United Nations is the greatest fraud in history. It's purpose is to destroy the United States."
    - John E. Rankin, U.S. Congressman

    "To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas." ~ Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization

    "We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."   - Arthur Schlesinger Jr., 'The CFR Journal Foreign Affairs', August 1975.

    "A world government can intervene militarily in the internal affairs of any nation when it disapproves of their activities."   - Kofi Annan, U.N. Secretary General

    "Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." ~ Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

     "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." ~ Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

     "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." ~ David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

     "The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other." ~ Myron Fagan, anti-Communist author

    "In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

    "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers." ~ U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

     "The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." ~ President George Herbert Walker Bush

  •  The second amendmant is very importnat but the Main issue is the destruction of the Constitution which is one form of treason. How do we explain this to the people?

  • GOOD AND BAD !

  • We are Americans .. We are why our nation is sovereign 

    let the UN try and take our guns and we will show them footage of deliverance

     

  • Wasn't this a treasonous act by john kerry?

  • Truth is even the liberal democrat senators know that if they want to be reelected must oust that flubdub UN bill that old john kerry signed.Eventhough many dems go along with a lot of the liberals bullshi*thats put out by their party they knew by approving that trashy bill would put their as*es out to pasture.But lets not get to excited just yet the bill has just been put aside for now and it will be brought back for reconsideration at a later time.Remember the Dic(k)tator wants our guns.He needs our guns before he can put his dic(k)tatorship in motion.He knows he stands about a snow balls chance in hell by attempting to take over an armed America.Oh yea he would give Moochell for an exchange to get our guns.He lays in his bed at night dreaming about us givin up our guns so he can take America over.Oh yes we gonna have to fight before its over with.

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