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I saw this on my buddies site, and realized it belonged here too.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Hank Jordan May 21, 2017. 2 Replies

Reasons why Federal District and Appellate Courts Lack Standing to Rule on Trumps EOReprinted with permission of author Oren Long;Here's something I hope you take seriously.   If you like it, perhaps…Continue

Progressives openly warring with American Conservatives

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Make no mistake, the American people and our Constitution are under direct attack by the forces behind the push for the NWO. Since November 2016 that attack has been levied at the duly elected…Continue

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Henry Massingale replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"The last time I viewed any information about The Cub Scouts, or Boy Scouts, they were in deep with Pedophilia, to compare the Cub Scouts or the Girl Scouts to Mr. Jordan, one must reflect back to his military service. This is why the Government fear…"
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Henry Massingale replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
" Then Mr. Nelson, Try debating with me. I had the honor of being invited to a Constitutional Militia, they are very well organized, and United States wide they do stand over 2 million strong. If one thinks of them as a social network, they lack…"
Jun 6
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"P/S The Cub Scouts are organized but they couldn't route a troop of Brownies...  The Patriot movement as defined on social media may be organized in some peoples mind but they couldn't take on a well managed Cub Scout troop... and…"
Jun 6
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Debating with you on this is ludicrous... one doesn't form a new nation or reform an old one without first unifying sufficient people and resources willing to commit to the endeavor... One will never succeed in overthrowing the existing power…"
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Hank Jordan replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
" Mr Nelson, The current Patriot Movement is organized and we do not need the endorsement of these "Government Employees" of Other Countries.  We do not pledge our resources in supporting its implementation, by the States, nor do…"
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Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Tread lightly as the current patriot movement is not organized nor is it widely supported by most in State Government. Our founders had the unanimous support of all 13 colonies before declaring their independence... I don't know of one State…"
Jun 5
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"The hardcore statement above speaks for itself...  wild conspiracy, filled with half-truths, and unsubstantiated conjecture is always quite shocking.  However, there are serious problems with our banking systems, commercial enterprises,…"
Jun 5
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"The point remains... every Colonial Government signed on to the Declaration of Independence.  Most wars are fought by common men... the commoners, therefore, are overwhelmingly against war.  However, the leadership, businesses and others,…"
Jun 5
The Tradesman replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"The official estimates of what percentage of the colonists supported and fought in the revolutionary war vary from 6% to 13% of the total number of colonists. In every State there was division of support for America and support for Britain. Robert;…"
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The Tradesman replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Tif, The first step is to use what was provided in the Constitution for the people to change the Government which has become recalcitrant and unresponsive to the will of the people. That is the Article V provisions. The people have yet to use it to…"
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The Tradesman replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Mr. Nelson, Lighten up. This was not meant as a call to insurrection, it was meant as a wake up call to Americans to show them what has been taken from them by the creeping Socialism of the last five decades. > Besides we need to either repeal or…"
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Jea9 replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"All of these things listed, and more, are true and violate our foundation and our laws. But our documents as written are what need to be learned, respected, honored and followed. This is a spiritual battle clothed in ignorance, apathy and wealth.…"
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Hank Jordan replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Mr. Nelson,  Your right about the word treason, if I remember correctly Mr. Massingale, used the word treason, in a sentence to you over DACA, and you replied you "agreed".  Our Founder Fathers Preamble for The Declaration of…"
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Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Our founding father's treaded lightly as they organized, unified, and moved the Colonies to rebellion... knowing that without the full support of the 13 Colonies, their legislatures and governors they would 'FAIL' in the endeavor to…"
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Hank Jordan replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Declaration of Independence, tell me man, what really is the Declaration of Independence ? If you know the true history of its agenda, then you should know what it is ? Tell me man, I would like for you to share your thoughts of what it really is."
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Source; https://constitution.com/we-need-a-new-declaration-of-independence-...Many are saying that the culture war raging all around us proves that we are headed for another civil war.They say America is fast coming to a crossroads from which there will be no return if we take the wrong path. Do we take the road that leads away from America and toward…See More
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We Have A Full Blown Constitutional Crisis Operated By Democrats Ongoing Right Now.

Posted on May 26, 2018 at 8:40pm 5 Comments

My Friend McFixit sent me this one;

I found this information in an article by Ron Ewert the President of N.A.R.L.O.National Association of Rural Landowners on the post at; http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/forum/topics/royalty-dynasties-the-e...
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Could this be the reason wht the're so many "Convienent Serial shootings lately?"

Posted on May 26, 2018 at 8:30pm 2 Comments

There are some declassified Documents on micro wave brain mapping and interactive devices.

Here are some US Patents granted for the devices that can be called remote mind controlling devices.

See list at; http://www.usa-anti-communist.com/ard/US_PatentedMindControl.php…

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How the Democrats have started a workable plan to steal the vote from the American People (See Bold Underlined section of blog)

Posted on May 26, 2018 at 6:00pm 4 Comments

Reprinted with permission of author Ron Ewert;

Pay particular attention to the bold and underlined section to see what the Democrats have in store to actually steal the vote from the American people.

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Gun Rights 'Are' Civil Rights, And Must Be Honored & Protected

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Suggestion for fighting the Potential loss of our Second Amendment Rights.
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At 8:00pm on April 25, 2014, Margot Malpher said…

As I said below, I put 2 Petitions on We THE People at the White House Petitions Site.  To view go to:  http://wh.gov/lvpFE and http://wh.gov/lvhuN  These Petitions address our PROPERTY RIGHTS under the Constitution and Civil Rights; and the second introduces something NEW for our country that will, if done right, solve a lot of Problems.  I put these Petitions on Tea Party, Facebook, Twitter and D.C. Clothesline.  Theres not much time left to get 100,000 signatures in order for the Administration to see them and Review.  I think its a start in the right direction, but if the tea party thinks its fruitless to try, then please let me know how I can be of service.  Margot

At 6:01pm on April 25, 2014, Margot Malpher said…

Hi, I just want to let everyone know that I put 2 Petitions on the Tea Party Blog site.  I have not received any comments.  I don't even know if my communications are being read.  Am I talking to a wall?  The Tea Party is asking for Help and I give it, but I feel its not appreciated.  Now I read your post and I have some things to say, but I am discouraged because I get no response from anyone.  I am not a young person.  I am 74, and I try.  But whats the use???

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Newt Says What The Rest Of Us Are Thinking:
It’s Time To Throw Peter Strzok In Jail

Disgraced FBI special agent Peter Strzok, a senior member of the bureau who gained notoriety in recent months over his anti-Trump text messages to a colleague, was grilled for nearly 10 hours during a joint congressional committee hearing on Thursday.

At issue was Strzok’s anti-Trump texts to former FBI lawyer and lover Lisa Page that coincided with his leading of the investigations into both former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email server scandal and the alleged Trump/Russia 2016 election collusion, as well as his involvement in the subsequent Robert Mueller special counsel probe.

The hearing proved to be a heated battle, as Strzok displayed an arrogant smugness in defiance of pointed questions from Republicans that he largely danced around, while Democrats sought to upend and undermine the entire hearing with a plethora of interruptions, parliamentary maneuvers and outright praise for the man who helped let Clinton off the hook while ferociously targeting Trump.

Former House speaker and presidential candidate Newt Gingrich was less than impressed with Strzok’s performance and cooperation in the hearing and suggested during an appearance on Fox Business that the FBI agent should be held in contempt of Congress.

“I think they have to move to hold him in contempt and throw him in jail,” Gingrich said of Congress and Strzok.

“This is a person who is willfully standing up and refusing to appear as a congressional witness and he was a government employee at the time,” he continued.

“He has every obligation to inform the legislative branch, and I don’t think they have any choice except to move a motion of contempt because he is fundamentally — and so is his girlfriend (Page) — they’re both fundamentally in violation of the entire constitutional process,” he added.

Page had been subpoenaed to appear before Congress on Wednesday but refused to appear, saying she’d been unable to review relevant documents prior to the scheduled hearing, a closed-door hearing that has since been rescheduled for Friday.

Gingrich was not the only one who thought Strzok deserved to be held in contempt of Congress, as House Judiciary Committee chairman Bob Goodlatte informed Strzok that he remained at risk of such during the hearing, according to The Daily Caller.

That warning from Goodlatte came after Strzok had refused to answer a straightforward question posed by House Oversight Committee chairman Trey Gowdy, regarding how many people Strzok had personally interviewed between a specific set of dates in relation to the Clinton email investigation.

“Mr. Strzok, please be advised that you can either comply with the committee’s direction to answer the question or refuse to do so,” Goodlatte stated. “The latter of which will place you in risk of a contempt citation and potential criminal liability. Do you understand that? The question is directed to the witness.”

Strzok still refused to answer, citing instructions received from his counsel and the FBI to not answer certain questions on certain topics.

Goodlatte replied, “Mr. Strzok, in a moment we will continue with the hearing, but based on your refusal to answer the question, at the conclusion of the day we will be recessing the hearing and you will be subject to recall to allow the committee to consider proceeding with a contempt citation.”

It is unclear if Goodlatte and the committee ultimately did consider a contempt citation for Strzok following the contentious hearing, nor is it clear if Page will be held in contempt for blowing off her subpoenaed appearance on Wednesday.

Hopefully Congress will follow through on the threats of contempt followed by actual jail time against Strzok and Page in response to their uncooperative behavior and failure to appear when subpoenaed, if only to ensure that future witnesses called before Congress for sensitive or contentious hearings don’t think they can get away with the same sort of behavior.

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Cops Sent To Seize Veteran’s Guns Without A Warrant, He Refused To Turn Them Over

“No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process,” says Leonard Cottrell, after successfully staving off law enforcement and the courts from confiscating his firearms. Cottrell, an Iraq War veteran, was at work when he received a phone call from his wife. The cops were there, busting in to take his guns away. It all started after a casual conversation his son had at school.

Ammoland reports:

Police said their visit was sparked by a conversation that Leonard Cottrell Jr.’s 13-year-old son had had with another student at the school. Cottrell said he was told his son and the other student were discussing security being lax and what they would have to do to escape a school shooting at Millstone Middle School.

The conversation was overheard by another student, who went home and told his parents, and his mother panicked. The mom then contacted the school, which contacted the State Police, according to Cottrell.

The visit from the troopers came around 10 p.m. on June 14, 2018, Cottrell said, a day after Gov. Phil Murphy signed several gun enforcement bills into law.

After several hours, Cottrell said police agreed not to take the guns but to allow him to move them to another location while the investigation continued.

“They had admitted several times that my son made no threat to himself or other students or the school or anything like that,” he said.

Cottrell said he made it very clear to the police that he was “not going to willingly give up my constitutional rights where there’s no justifiable cause, no warrants, no nothing.”

The troopers searched his son’s room and found nothing, Cottrell said.

“To appease everybody, I had my firearms stored someplace else,” he said. “That way, during the course of the investigation, my son doesn’t have access to them and it’s on neutral ground and everything and everybody’s happy.”

“In the Garden State, the usual approach is to confiscate first and ask questions later, and victims of this approach often don’t know their rights. ‎In this case, the victim pushed back and confiscation was avoided — but the circumstances surrounding the incident are outrageous. A student expressing concern over lack of security is not a reason to send police to the student’s home — but it might be a reason to send police to the school to keep students and teachers safe” said Scott L. Bach, executive director of the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs and a member of the NRA board of directors.

NJ.com adds:

Cottrell, a disabled U.S. Army veteran who served three tours during “Operation Iraqi Freedom,” owns a shotgun and a pistol. He has all the correct permits to own the firearms, he said, and predominately uses the shotgun to hunt.

He said his wife allowed the officers to enter the home, and with her permission, they searched his son’s room — but they did not find any weapons, he said. The officers, he said, didn’t have a warrant but still wanted to take his guns. Cottrell wouldn’t let them.

“No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process,” he said Thursday.

He said the attempted seizure resulted because of a new law Gov. Phil Murphy signed into law that makes it easier for police to confiscate guns when someone in the state poses a threat to themselves or others. The law is part of a broader statewide effort to make New Jersey’s gun laws even tougher amid the national outcry for more gun control in the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida.

Cottrell said the officers “danced around the issue” when he confronted them about the new law.

A New Jersey State Police spokesman declined to answer questions about whether this incident had anything to do with the new gun laws.

In an email, Sgt. First Class Jeff Flynn said, “Troopers responded to Mr. Cottrell’s residence in reference to the report of a possible school threat. Based on their investigation, it was determined that Mr. Cottrell’s weapons did not need to be seized.”

David Codrea, writing for Ammoland, further added:

To appease everybody, I had my firearms stored someplace else,” New Jersey gun owner and Army veteran Leonard Cottrell Jr. told New Jersey 101.5 after a June 14 visit from State Police,. “That way, during the course of the investigation, my son doesn’t have access to them and it’s on neutral ground and everything and everybody’s happy.”

Cottrell was recalling state troopers showing up at his door to confiscate firearms after his 13-year-old son was overheard discussing lax school safety with a friend.

Indoctrinated by a pervasive snitch culture — one that never seems to deter the blatantly obvious demonic nutjobs — the eavesdropping student told his parents, who told school administrators, who in turn called the cops. (Note “If you see something, say something” carries risks of its own – if you report the wrong person, you could end up smeared as a “hater.”)

“Cottrell said he made it very clear to the police that he was ‘not going to willingly give up my constitutional rights where there’s no justifiable cause, no warrants, no nothing,’” the report continued. Despite that, his home is now a “gun free zone” and that has been publicized by the media. He has, in fact, willingly ceded those rights, and by his own words in order to make authorities “happy.”

Before judging him for that, consider the environment that is New Jersey. Then consider the overwhelming force the state can bring to bear, and its predisposition to using it, especially if it’s to enforce citizen disarmament. It’s easy to anonymously declare “Molon Labe” on the internet. In meatspace, resistance is more effective when the aggressor doesn’t get to dictate the time and place, especially if that place is your home and you have family inside.

Appeasing gun-grabbers, generally couched as “compromise,” is impossible. It’s like throwing a scrap of flesh to a circling pack of jackals and expecting them to be sated and leave you alone — instead of sensing opportunity and fear, and moving in closer.

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