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I saw this on my buddies site, and realized it belonged here too.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Hank Jordan May 21, 2017. 2 Replies

Reasons why Federal District and Appellate Courts Lack Standing to Rule on Trumps EOReprinted with permission of author Oren Long;Here's something I hope you take seriously.   If you like it, perhaps…Continue

Progressives openly warring with American Conservatives

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Make no mistake, the American people and our Constitution are under direct attack by the forces behind the push for the NWO. Since November 2016 that attack has been levied at the duly elected…Continue

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Henry Massingale replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"The last time I viewed any information about The Cub Scouts, or Boy Scouts, they were in deep with Pedophilia, to compare the Cub Scouts or the Girl Scouts to Mr. Jordan, one must reflect back to his military service. This is why the Government fear…"
Jun 6
Henry Massingale replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
" Then Mr. Nelson, Try debating with me. I had the honor of being invited to a Constitutional Militia, they are very well organized, and United States wide they do stand over 2 million strong. If one thinks of them as a social network, they lack…"
Jun 6
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"P/S The Cub Scouts are organized but they couldn't route a troop of Brownies...  The Patriot movement as defined on social media may be organized in some peoples mind but they couldn't take on a well managed Cub Scout troop... and…"
Jun 6
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Debating with you on this is ludicrous... one doesn't form a new nation or reform an old one without first unifying sufficient people and resources willing to commit to the endeavor... One will never succeed in overthrowing the existing power…"
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Hank Jordan replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
" Mr Nelson, The current Patriot Movement is organized and we do not need the endorsement of these "Government Employees" of Other Countries.  We do not pledge our resources in supporting its implementation, by the States, nor do…"
Jun 5
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Tread lightly as the current patriot movement is not organized nor is it widely supported by most in State Government. Our founders had the unanimous support of all 13 colonies before declaring their independence... I don't know of one State…"
Jun 5
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"The hardcore statement above speaks for itself...  wild conspiracy, filled with half-truths, and unsubstantiated conjecture is always quite shocking.  However, there are serious problems with our banking systems, commercial enterprises,…"
Jun 5
Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"The point remains... every Colonial Government signed on to the Declaration of Independence.  Most wars are fought by common men... the commoners, therefore, are overwhelmingly against war.  However, the leadership, businesses and others,…"
Jun 5
The Tradesman replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"The official estimates of what percentage of the colonists supported and fought in the revolutionary war vary from 6% to 13% of the total number of colonists. In every State there was division of support for America and support for Britain. Robert;…"
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The Tradesman replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Tif, The first step is to use what was provided in the Constitution for the people to change the Government which has become recalcitrant and unresponsive to the will of the people. That is the Article V provisions. The people have yet to use it to…"
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The Tradesman replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Mr. Nelson, Lighten up. This was not meant as a call to insurrection, it was meant as a wake up call to Americans to show them what has been taken from them by the creeping Socialism of the last five decades. > Besides we need to either repeal or…"
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Jea9 replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"All of these things listed, and more, are true and violate our foundation and our laws. But our documents as written are what need to be learned, respected, honored and followed. This is a spiritual battle clothed in ignorance, apathy and wealth.…"
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Hank Jordan replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Mr. Nelson,  Your right about the word treason, if I remember correctly Mr. Massingale, used the word treason, in a sentence to you over DACA, and you replied you "agreed".  Our Founder Fathers Preamble for The Declaration of…"
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Ronald A. Nelson Col.USA (Ret) replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Our founding father's treaded lightly as they organized, unified, and moved the Colonies to rebellion... knowing that without the full support of the 13 Colonies, their legislatures and governors they would 'FAIL' in the endeavor to…"
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Hank Jordan replied to The Tradesman's discussion Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?
"Declaration of Independence, tell me man, what really is the Declaration of Independence ? If you know the true history of its agenda, then you should know what it is ? Tell me man, I would like for you to share your thoughts of what it really is."
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Should this be the new Declaration of Independence for Conservative America?

Source; https://constitution.com/we-need-a-new-declaration-of-independence-...Many are saying that the culture war raging all around us proves that we are headed for another civil war.They say America is fast coming to a crossroads from which there will be no return if we take the wrong path. Do we take the road that leads away from America and toward…See More
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We Have A Full Blown Constitutional Crisis Operated By Democrats Ongoing Right Now.

Posted on May 26, 2018 at 8:40pm 5 Comments

My Friend McFixit sent me this one;

I found this information in an article by Ron Ewert the President of N.A.R.L.O.National Association of Rural Landowners on the post at; http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/forum/topics/royalty-dynasties-the-e...
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Could this be the reason wht the're so many "Convienent Serial shootings lately?"

Posted on May 26, 2018 at 8:30pm 2 Comments

There are some declassified Documents on micro wave brain mapping and interactive devices.

Here are some US Patents granted for the devices that can be called remote mind controlling devices.

See list at; http://www.usa-anti-communist.com/ard/US_PatentedMindControl.php…

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How the Democrats have started a workable plan to steal the vote from the American People (See Bold Underlined section of blog)

Posted on May 26, 2018 at 6:00pm 4 Comments

Reprinted with permission of author Ron Ewert;

Pay particular attention to the bold and underlined section to see what the Democrats have in store to actually steal the vote from the American people.

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"Royalty, Dynasties, the Elite, the Deep State and Central…

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Gun Rights 'Are' Civil Rights, And Must Be Honored & Protected

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Suggestion for fighting the Potential loss of our Second Amendment Rights.
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I am not a lawyer, but I have done some common sense research into the Second Amendment, and the current restrictions on it, plus the ones pending, and I feel even the threat of a nationwide lawsuit of this scope would make the opposition pull back completely.
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At 8:00pm on April 25, 2014, Margot Malpher said…

As I said below, I put 2 Petitions on We THE People at the White House Petitions Site.  To view go to:  http://wh.gov/lvpFE and http://wh.gov/lvhuN  These Petitions address our PROPERTY RIGHTS under the Constitution and Civil Rights; and the second introduces something NEW for our country that will, if done right, solve a lot of Problems.  I put these Petitions on Tea Party, Facebook, Twitter and D.C. Clothesline.  Theres not much time left to get 100,000 signatures in order for the Administration to see them and Review.  I think its a start in the right direction, but if the tea party thinks its fruitless to try, then please let me know how I can be of service.  Margot

At 6:01pm on April 25, 2014, Margot Malpher said…

Hi, I just want to let everyone know that I put 2 Petitions on the Tea Party Blog site.  I have not received any comments.  I don't even know if my communications are being read.  Am I talking to a wall?  The Tea Party is asking for Help and I give it, but I feel its not appreciated.  Now I read your post and I have some things to say, but I am discouraged because I get no response from anyone.  I am not a young person.  I am 74, and I try.  But whats the use???

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OMG!! -> Government Now Wants To Seize Your Car For Going 5MPH Over The Limit

We’ve discussed this on and off for several years now. Civil asset forfeiture is a legal process that allows the government to seize assets and cash from citizens without any due process or judicial oversight.

You don’t even have to be charged with a crime. You are assumed guilty unless you can somehow prove your innocence.

Of course, not everyone has this ability… if you aren’t local, state, or federal law enforcement, this is called stealing, and you go to prison.

But the government is actually a bigger problem than common thieves.

A 2015 report showed that law enforcement used civil asset forfeiture to steal more from US residents than every thief, robber, and burglar in America combined.

About $4.5 BILLION worth of cash, cars, homes, and other property is taken by civil asset forfeiture each year – hundreds of millions more than common criminals steal.

And it happens at every level. Your local cop can use civil asset forfeiture just like your state trooper. And then any one of the armed agents of the US government—from the FBI to the Fish and Wildlife Service—can rob you for whatever reason they want.

This travesty continues to grow because the cops who take your stuff get to keep it. Police departments and government agencies around the country depend on civil asset forfeiture to boost their budgets.

Cops will literally keep some of the cars they take as squad cars. And they make a fortune auctioning off the houses, boats, and anything else they confiscate.

Obviously this gives cops an incentive to steal, whether or not they actually think the property was used in a crime, or acquired illegally. Remember, civil asset forfeiture adds billions every year to their bottom line.

On Wednesday, the Supreme Court heard arguments in a case of civil asset forfeiture.

Tyson Timbs was convicted of selling a small amount of drugs to an undercover police officer. He was sentenced to house arrest, and paid about $1,200 in fines.

But then police used civil asset forfeiture to take his $42,000 Land Rover which Timbs purchased with money from a life insurance policy after his father died. The money did not come from selling drugs, or any other illegal activity.

Timbs sued, and the case made its way to the Supreme Court, because every lower court in Indiana said the forfeiture was perfectly legit.

The case revolves around whether or not the seizure of the Land Rover was an excessive fine under the 8th amendment, and whether or not this protection against excessive fines applies to state governments.

And the public got some crazy insight into the government’s position.

The Indiana Solicitor General was arguing in favor of civil asset forfeiture when Justice Stephen Breyer asked him a hypothetical.

Breyer asked, if a state needs revenue, could it force someone to forfeit their Bugatti, Mercedes, or Ferrari for speeding? Even if they were going just 5 miles per hour over the speed limit?

And the utterly appalling answer from the Indiana Solicitor General was, yes.

That’s right… the official government position is that they can steal any amount of your property in “connection” with any crime whatsoever, no matter how trivial the crime may be… even exceeding the speed limit by 5 miles per hour.

This is how overbearing and authoritarian the government has become in the land of the free.

This is how much power your local cop has… and the power only grows as you go to state, and federal officials.

If there is any solace in any of this, it is that the other Supreme Court Justices were reportedly laughing at this exchange.

The justices seemed incredulous that Indiana’s top lawyer was using such absurd assertions and flimsy reasoning in his arguments.

So, for now, we can keep our cars if we get pulled over for speeding. But that may not always be the case…

Depending on how this is ruled, it could pave the way for even more egregious abuses of power… or it could curb the practice, and reign in these thieves in uniforms.

Just understand where the government is coming from. These politicians, bureaucrats and officers think they can do whatever they want. Absolutely anything goes, with no limitation whatsoever.

And that makes it a little tough to feel like you really live in the land of the free.

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