Civil War?

Top Teamsters goon James R. Hoffa is threatening to bring “civil war” to Michigan in order to roll back the state’s new right to work law.

After Gov. Rick Snyder (R) signed legislation aimed at breaking the labor movement’s death grip on Michigan’s near-comatose economy, Hoffa took to CNN Tuesday to declare, “This is just the first round of a battle that’s going to divide this state.” He added, “We’re going to have a civil war in this state.”

Hoffa also flippantly compared the enactment of the legislation to the attack on Pearl Harbor 71 years ago in which more than 3,000 Americans died.

While the Michigan House of Representatives debated the worker freedom bill on Tuesday, state lawmaker Douglas Geiss (D) took to the floor.

“There will be blood,” he said. “I really wish we had not gone here … I do not see solace, I do not see peace.”

In fact blood has already been spilled. While he was trying to interview right to work opponents outside the legislature in Lansing two days ago, conservative comedian-activist Steven Crowder was beaten up by union members. Apparently the perpetrators were upset that Crowder was asking questions and trying to prevent them from demolishing a temporary shelter that the good government group Americans for Prosperity had erected at the site. Crowder suffered a chipped tooth in the attack.

The new Michigan law strikes a powerful blow for freedom of association in the Wolverine State. Right to work laws weaken unions’ monopolistic control of local labor markets and protect workers’ ability to control their own destinies, free from pressure applied by union bosses. Such legislation allows employees to work without being forced to pay union dues which are often funneled to Democratic candidates and various radical causes. Michigan is now the 24th state to enact right to work legislation. Read more:


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Comment by Michelle Formoso on September 12, 2013 at 7:44am

Lets hold these crooks and tyrants through a common law grand jury, start one in your county if you don't have one of just support them by registering (no money needed) go to National liberty  this is the lawful way of doing it and makes us the 4th arm of Govt. truly made of "WE THE PEOPLE" lets do it!!

Comment by Robert N. Schick on September 8, 2013 at 10:00pm

One thing for sure~~The U.N. is a Big part of the~`Fundamental Transformation~~100's of USS cities have signed up for ICLEI ~~International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives~~membership~~This is a Trojan Horse for takeover at the Local level under the guise of Environmental concerns~~It's Agenda 21~~My little town of Santee Ca. is a member~~ so is nearby San Diego~~The long term goal is terminating Private property rights and herding sheeple into the cities and returning the back country to the wild things !

Comment by Larry Schwarm on September 8, 2013 at 12:41pm

As is mentioned elsewhere the politics of this once great state has been
hi-jacked by dense population centers that support ethnic minorities and
illegals in ways designed to garner their votes. Unions have infiltrated public
employment and use member dues to support corrupt politicians who in turn sign
lucrative contracts and so on and so on. There are many conservatives who
mourn the current state of decline and to a person look forward to the day where
the natural balance is restored. California is a state rich in beauty and
diversity which can be enjoyed in spite of the Mad Hatter Tea Party being hosted
by Mr. Brown. (No reference to the patriot group known as the Tea Party, which
by the way started here.) I am loathe to leave because this is My home, so I
suffer on as do so many of the citizens here. Please keep this in mind as you
swing your paint brush wildly and realize some who leave California are not your
enemy, far more likely they are kindred spirits seeking freedoms they have lost
in DSC.

Comment by Marcus W. Mckinney on September 6, 2013 at 3:27pm

Unfortunatly Janice it seems you are another ignorant person commenting on the subject.  Unions have ALWAYS been for the working man just wanting to keep their piece of the American Pie. Rather then letting big bro keep it all.  You are crossing Unions for the working man with Marxism which says all are entitled to everything no matter if they worked for it or not,   Huge Difference,  Maybe you might want to work in a major field of business without proper "obama" insurance for yourself and family and low wages to realize how much the UNIONS do for the working person!!!!

Comment by Thaaff on August 26, 2013 at 2:29am
Janice, I could not agree with you more! I think it's a good thing that most Americans are finally beginning to realize the ugly truth regarding Unions and what they're really about! We all know how the leadership of every Union is made up of Marxists; as a result, every sector of our society they run is in shambles (our Union-run educational system is a prime example of that)! What went on in 2012 in the state of Wisconsin, and the "Occupy" movement did a whole lot to show their true colors...and their true intentions! Unions are made up by nothing but ignorant thugs who only understand violence and destruction! From time to time, they try to present themselves as an ever-present help in the face of injustice, and there are always those who fall for it; however, the majority of Americans are seeing behind the smoke-screen as they use strong-arm tactics against anyone who doesn't give them what they want! This administration uses the very same Chicago-style thuggery, with threats, intimidation....even murder to get what they want, or to cover their corrupt behinds! Won't it be wonderful when they are history (when America does bless God)!
Comment by Janice Bloomfield on August 25, 2013 at 10:48am

Unions need to be dismantled--the only thing they do is be a funding action for the progressive demorats--no moral value at all--they have outlived their usefulness--what they do behind closed doors likely leaves much to the imagination regarding legal behavior.

We need to be worried--We the people are not listened to---fraudulent voting allowing people in office--radical progressives are in areas of power

We the people---have to become more cohesive--we must stand together----so many Americans do not get it--cannot believe that we are becoming a totalitarian government--that our Constitution and our BIll of RIghts are being stomped on and removed by EO's.  He walks all over the Congress and seems Teflon plated---but there are chinks and we must push our legislators to IMPEACH.

God Bless America--and please---- America Bless God

Comment by GW Smith on August 23, 2013 at 2:24pm

Hoffa is a thug and should be arrested for trying to start a riot.

Comment by Thaaff on August 18, 2013 at 9:10pm
Sid Greenfield, I think your post is brilliant, and I could not agree more with your plan of action! Have you been mobilizing interested patriots to get your idea rolling yet? I would think that there are many like-minded Americans across this land who would be more than willing to make it a reality! Your plan is way too promising to not go forward with it, and I sincerely hope that you will!
Comment by Chasidah Fried on July 31, 2013 at 8:19pm

 I spent the majority of my adult life Fighting fire for the Department of Defense.

I sincerely believe that voting them out will; not succeed as you see that the vopte was and is corrupted.

I hope for the best yet plan for the worst, I am currently residing in Texas and feel that I have saved myself A BUG OUT TRIO MOVING FROM THE EAST COAST HERE. I  I also am seeking to add knowledge skills and abilities to an organized or unorganized militia within the State of Texas . I am currently close enough to Dallas to commute.

Please contact me if you know of any members in the forum.

Thank You ALL and be safe out there

Comment by Sid Greenfield on July 31, 2013 at 1:34am

Hypothetical Action Plan for the initiation of Guerrilla War:

If one were serious about inflicting maximum damage to the NSA's intelligence infrastructure, one would begin by attacking their C3I capabilities ... C3I = Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence and There is no shame in starting small.

For instance:  Most, if not all, traffic cams and photo radar vehicles are connected on IP-networks directly to the regional Fusion Centers via cable, WiFi and Microwave links.  All such cameras have been outfitted with both face-recognition and object-identification software ... to include OCR software that reads license numbers and bumper stickers. Each camera has a specific IP and GPS address.

IP networked security cameras at airports, buss stations, train stations, major retailers, gas stations and truck stops have the same capabilities and are also wired into the NSA Fusion Center C3I complex operated by DHS.

This system is incredibly dangerous and can Identify and FOLLOW YOU across the city or across the entire nation in real time.  Over time it can identify who you associate with, who you meet with and where you go every day. It can tell them your political views, whether you are an NRA member, a Republican, Democrat, Progressive, Libertarian and even what you think of the president.

Enterprising patriots, intent upon inflicting serious damage on their C3I capabilities, would begin by taking out every single traffic cam at every intersection in every city in the nation.  Of course, THEY mount most of them at least 30 feet off the ground,  so shotguns with hot beanbag rounds would be the tool of choice in such an endeavor. Disguise would be of paramount importance and if caught, one could expect to be fired upon.  They won't take kindly to anyone trying to block up their peep holes.

This effort would logically be followed by the destruction of ALL ip-networked security cameras and photo-radar vans in the country on an "as convenient", "target of opportunity" basis.

Once such an action is taken, It can't be undone and you are in for the duration.

Comment by Kasey O'Neal on July 26, 2013 at 10:32am

Im a little confused. Is this saying Unions are a good thing? Because I disagree wholeheartedly. 

Comment by AZRanger on July 14, 2013 at 11:51am

Hi Robert! I concur. "The ONLY good Communist....NAZI....Globalist.....Dictator, etc, is a dead one!" That old saying still holds true today, ONLY MORE SO!

We have federal agerncies, the Administration, state legislatures, the SCOTUS, and a myriad of lessor courts all commiting TREASON, and our "non-representing representatives in Congress continue to do nothing! I am coming to the conclusion that if they continue to refuse to do something about this Illegal, Un-Constitutional, and Treasonous behavior on the part of the rest of the federal govt, they have abandoned their oath and authority to act on behalf of the American people! Therefore, they will have become a part of the problem, and just as guilty of aiding and abetting the crimes of those others; just as if they had puled the trigger themselves!

Thats ok folks, it won't be long now!  The word is out, and millions of us are preparing all over the country for the coingm conflict! They have already shown their hand, and proven their intent! I expect TSHTF to happen aftert he first of the year. A lot will depend on when the economy crashes. I think that will be the determining factor in the timing of events, and the implementation of martial law.



Comment by Robert N. Schick on July 13, 2013 at 9:38am

As Eric~The Red~Holder said~~You never want a crisis to go to waste~~Bankrupting America with their Cloward Piven plan that creates unsustainable Debt is the catalyst.  These Progressive Marxist are lousy at creating jobs and opportunity but they're great at creating poverty and strife~~ They hate Capitalism. They love Totalitarianism.  Biden admires China for forcing people to do the bidding of the central government.  It's all about Power and Control...The Live free or Die Brigade will fight these sons and daughters of Satan until Hell freezes over then we'll fight them on the ice~~Molon Labe~~as the Hero on flight 93 Todd Beemer said~~Let's Roll..! 

Comment by Rahn Lawson on July 5, 2013 at 11:41am

Timothy B Mod, that is exactly what I was trying to say. Our rights are not granted by the government, the founding fathers established our republican form of government to protect our God given unalienable rights. I am just growing tired of people using the term Constitutional Rights, because it implies that our right are granted to us by the government. That which is granted can also be taken away, so I was trying to point out that "RIGHTS" are natural and if you believe like me...God given, and in no way are they granted to us by the government.

Comment by Rahn Lawson on July 4, 2013 at 4:30pm

God Bless George Washington and the Constitution ! I just read an article where the writer used the term "Constitutional Rights" Please educate people that the Constitution does not grant any rights to anyone. "RIGHTS" are natural, or if you believe like me  these rights are God given. The Constitution only protects those rights, and prevents government from encroaching on our rights. It is there to prevent corrupt government from taking away or abridging our natural rights. If any government body tries to limit or take away any of our natural rights they are in violation of the supreme law of the land. America is a Republic where the rights of all individuals are protected and when the government passes laws that are in contrast with the Constitution these laws are null and void on their face and unenforceable.  Any government action that attempts to enforce these unconstitutional laws is a crime and the the individuals are traitors to their oath and to America.

Comment by Christopher Todd Slawek on July 2, 2013 at 6:21pm

Greedy workers! Tennessee is building great cars and paying there workers well and there are no Unions there either. And right down the hill from me in Greenvills SC BMW is building the best cars they have ever built right here in America without Unions getting in the way either! I am from the South and nobody is going to tell me I have to join a Union just to work for a company. If they chipped my tooth I would put a damn bullet in there head!

Comment by Van Lowe on June 23, 2013 at 3:09pm

The unions are just fronts for the MOB!!

Comment by Van Lowe on June 23, 2013 at 2:37pm

If we have a Civil War or a Revolution,then Mississippi will surely be in the fight against the progresssives and the communist backed government wer have in place today!--I am ready with pig soaked ammo to defend America against the evil cult of islam!!!--I will fight to my last breath to make sure America stays free and doesn't become a Caliphate state!!

Comment by Dave Janes on June 19, 2013 at 9:12pm

The UAW and greedy owners ruined our car business. Foreign companies are bringing it back with non union workers who make cars better than the countries where the business started. It is a shame Michigan is so ruined though. It is my home state and one of my dauthers lives there.

Comment by Dave Janes on June 19, 2013 at 9:05pm

 I just wrote a long post that I am going to erase. Bottom line I agree with Sid Green in principal and I won't post any more information to the opposition so to speak. God Bless.

PS reach out to any younger soldiers you know especially those who have been harassed. Look for oath keepers, American legion and VFW they are our natural allies you were talking about. Each group has something the other needs.

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