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Our Fathers' Legacy

A Legacy is a gift, truly our Fathers' legacy to us is in our Founding Documents. Come, learn with us as we explore in depth each of the documents that led to the Legacy left for us.

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Pledge of Allegiance

Started by girard senesac. Last reply by Bruce Everett Jan 22, 2015. 2 Replies

The new pledge :I pledge allegiance to King Obama of the new  U.S.of America and to the Socialists for which it stands, one United Nation, invisible, with no liberty or justice for all.Continue

Can we return to Reagan's "Shining City on the top o the Hll?"

Started by Joseph Volpendesta. Last reply by BarbaraFrame-Love Dec 25, 2013. 1 Reply

I would submit that the Founding Fathers were men completely unique in history   I would furthersubmit that hostility displayed by other nations is little more than envy at our place in history. …Continue

First Amendment 101

Started by Terri. Last reply by Georgia Ann Sellers Oct 5, 2013. 2 Replies

FIRST AMENDMENT 101Amendment ICongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the…Continue

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Comment by Jeanine Kincheloe on December 18, 2012 at 11:12am

http://www.newswithviews.com/Publius/huldah112.htm

Hello-I just joined and am answering Babci. Above is the link for Publius Huldah on Nullification. Swipe over the link above and copy/paste into your browser address area. When it finds it, then swipe over the entire article by just holding down your mouse, and while it is selecting the text, it will show a blue background. Just swipe over it all and copy/paste (on a Mac this is command key followed by C (key). Then Command (key) V (key). This action on a pc uses the Control (key) instead of the Command key. So swipe, Control C, Control v into a new document (Word doc). 

Then you can reformat if you wish by swiping again over all, Control  A (this time, means select all), so you can format the way you want.

I hope you can follow this, make sure to copy Publius's name and author info. I sent this to my Constitution class teacher, she found it very valuable. All Governors should read this.

Comment by Roger Davies on November 29, 2012 at 9:00am

News flash!

You are making a HUGE assumption here. You are assuming that the GOVERNMENT is operating under our Constitution. It is NOT! It looks like it. And the so called elected senators and congressmen put on a good show pretending to be following it. Ever wonder why you are continually saying, “That didn’t sound right.”? IT AIN’T RIGHT! Because, they AIN’T following the Constitution!

They haven’t been following the Constitution for many decades.

Look up; http://www.afn.org/~govern/bankruptcy.html

What’s the answer? When enough people get fed up enough, WE THE PEOPLE will take back our Country. PEACEFULLY!  http://www.nebraskarepublic.org/ Pick on “WATCH VIDEO”. WE need you more than ever.

Comment by Bill Leggieri on November 29, 2012 at 8:26am

Hello ALL,

As your recently accepted member, may I say that this is a particular pleasure to finally be associated with True American Patriots. I am fascinated by our Country's history and all that has gotten us here and I'm here because I believe it is now time for those of us who believe in America to make a stand and fight for what is truely in God's name, the U.S.A. 

I look forward to our discussions and hopefully our eventual meetings while establishing a trip "Back to the the Future" to re-establish what America once was and will be again, the Greatest Nation ever to exist on this planet!

Comment by Paul Z. on November 16, 2012 at 7:54am

Bulldog, I guess we have to step up our backing of Constitutional Conservatives and speaking out even loader to Congress. We need the House to her us loud and often phone calls, faxes, emails, letters and "donations."   If we don't see results in the 2014 elections, then there will be more drastic actions neded to be taken.

We need to expand the Tea Party into a much larger force.

Comment by Paul Z. on November 16, 2012 at 7:23am

Article 4, Section 4, states very clearly that: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this union, a Republican form of Government, & shall protect each of them from invasion..................

This is our guarantee against Socialism, is it not, and also our right to have the Federal Government STOP the invasion of Millions of Illegal Trespassers.  People sneaking into this countryare NOT "immigrants", just trespassers.

Comment by Terri on November 16, 2012 at 6:06am

Thank you Paul.  Also as soon as I get everything up, like finishing the Federalist Papers, we will be putting a little reward system in place as well.  We want to encourage everyone to read and understand our Founding Documents.  Stay tuned....

Comment by Paul Z. on November 15, 2012 at 10:02pm

Here is the final quiz on the first Hillsdale College Constitution study course free online.

In order to receive the course completion certificate, you will need to pass the final quiz with a score of at least 80%.

Take the Final Quiz

Comment by Terri on November 15, 2012 at 8:20pm

Please let's keep this group on point, this is regarding the Founding Documents.  Thank you!  :)

Babci, you'd have to contact that website on the matter of printing something of theirs.

Comment by Babci Cathy on November 15, 2012 at 7:21pm

http://patriotpost.us/alexander/15495/

The Confederate Convention discussion is about mid-way into the article.  Which amendments do we keep?  The first 10 only?

Comment by Babci Cathy on November 15, 2012 at 7:16pm

Hate to be so low-tech but I can't seem to copy and print the publiushuldah.wordpress obamacare nullification article to send to my Governor.  Suggestions?

Also, has anyone seen the latest commentary from Mark Alexander on "A Constitutional Confederacy"?  It would be a fun idea for this group to kick around.  I'll find the link...

 
 
 

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Newt Says What The Rest Of Us Are Thinking:
It’s Time To Throw Peter Strzok In Jail

Disgraced FBI special agent Peter Strzok, a senior member of the bureau who gained notoriety in recent months over his anti-Trump text messages to a colleague, was grilled for nearly 10 hours during a joint congressional committee hearing on Thursday.

At issue was Strzok’s anti-Trump texts to former FBI lawyer and lover Lisa Page that coincided with his leading of the investigations into both former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email server scandal and the alleged Trump/Russia 2016 election collusion, as well as his involvement in the subsequent Robert Mueller special counsel probe.

The hearing proved to be a heated battle, as Strzok displayed an arrogant smugness in defiance of pointed questions from Republicans that he largely danced around, while Democrats sought to upend and undermine the entire hearing with a plethora of interruptions, parliamentary maneuvers and outright praise for the man who helped let Clinton off the hook while ferociously targeting Trump.

Former House speaker and presidential candidate Newt Gingrich was less than impressed with Strzok’s performance and cooperation in the hearing and suggested during an appearance on Fox Business that the FBI agent should be held in contempt of Congress.

“I think they have to move to hold him in contempt and throw him in jail,” Gingrich said of Congress and Strzok.

“This is a person who is willfully standing up and refusing to appear as a congressional witness and he was a government employee at the time,” he continued.

“He has every obligation to inform the legislative branch, and I don’t think they have any choice except to move a motion of contempt because he is fundamentally — and so is his girlfriend (Page) — they’re both fundamentally in violation of the entire constitutional process,” he added.

Page had been subpoenaed to appear before Congress on Wednesday but refused to appear, saying she’d been unable to review relevant documents prior to the scheduled hearing, a closed-door hearing that has since been rescheduled for Friday.

Gingrich was not the only one who thought Strzok deserved to be held in contempt of Congress, as House Judiciary Committee chairman Bob Goodlatte informed Strzok that he remained at risk of such during the hearing, according to The Daily Caller.

That warning from Goodlatte came after Strzok had refused to answer a straightforward question posed by House Oversight Committee chairman Trey Gowdy, regarding how many people Strzok had personally interviewed between a specific set of dates in relation to the Clinton email investigation.

“Mr. Strzok, please be advised that you can either comply with the committee’s direction to answer the question or refuse to do so,” Goodlatte stated. “The latter of which will place you in risk of a contempt citation and potential criminal liability. Do you understand that? The question is directed to the witness.”

Strzok still refused to answer, citing instructions received from his counsel and the FBI to not answer certain questions on certain topics.

Goodlatte replied, “Mr. Strzok, in a moment we will continue with the hearing, but based on your refusal to answer the question, at the conclusion of the day we will be recessing the hearing and you will be subject to recall to allow the committee to consider proceeding with a contempt citation.”

It is unclear if Goodlatte and the committee ultimately did consider a contempt citation for Strzok following the contentious hearing, nor is it clear if Page will be held in contempt for blowing off her subpoenaed appearance on Wednesday.

Hopefully Congress will follow through on the threats of contempt followed by actual jail time against Strzok and Page in response to their uncooperative behavior and failure to appear when subpoenaed, if only to ensure that future witnesses called before Congress for sensitive or contentious hearings don’t think they can get away with the same sort of behavior.

TEA PARTY TARGET

Cops Sent To Seize Veteran’s Guns Without A Warrant, He Refused To Turn Them Over

“No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process,” says Leonard Cottrell, after successfully staving off law enforcement and the courts from confiscating his firearms. Cottrell, an Iraq War veteran, was at work when he received a phone call from his wife. The cops were there, busting in to take his guns away. It all started after a casual conversation his son had at school.

Ammoland reports:

Police said their visit was sparked by a conversation that Leonard Cottrell Jr.’s 13-year-old son had had with another student at the school. Cottrell said he was told his son and the other student were discussing security being lax and what they would have to do to escape a school shooting at Millstone Middle School.

The conversation was overheard by another student, who went home and told his parents, and his mother panicked. The mom then contacted the school, which contacted the State Police, according to Cottrell.

The visit from the troopers came around 10 p.m. on June 14, 2018, Cottrell said, a day after Gov. Phil Murphy signed several gun enforcement bills into law.

After several hours, Cottrell said police agreed not to take the guns but to allow him to move them to another location while the investigation continued.

“They had admitted several times that my son made no threat to himself or other students or the school or anything like that,” he said.

Cottrell said he made it very clear to the police that he was “not going to willingly give up my constitutional rights where there’s no justifiable cause, no warrants, no nothing.”

The troopers searched his son’s room and found nothing, Cottrell said.

“To appease everybody, I had my firearms stored someplace else,” he said. “That way, during the course of the investigation, my son doesn’t have access to them and it’s on neutral ground and everything and everybody’s happy.”

“In the Garden State, the usual approach is to confiscate first and ask questions later, and victims of this approach often don’t know their rights. ‎In this case, the victim pushed back and confiscation was avoided — but the circumstances surrounding the incident are outrageous. A student expressing concern over lack of security is not a reason to send police to the student’s home — but it might be a reason to send police to the school to keep students and teachers safe” said Scott L. Bach, executive director of the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs and a member of the NRA board of directors.

NJ.com adds:

Cottrell, a disabled U.S. Army veteran who served three tours during “Operation Iraqi Freedom,” owns a shotgun and a pistol. He has all the correct permits to own the firearms, he said, and predominately uses the shotgun to hunt.

He said his wife allowed the officers to enter the home, and with her permission, they searched his son’s room — but they did not find any weapons, he said. The officers, he said, didn’t have a warrant but still wanted to take his guns. Cottrell wouldn’t let them.

“No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process,” he said Thursday.

He said the attempted seizure resulted because of a new law Gov. Phil Murphy signed into law that makes it easier for police to confiscate guns when someone in the state poses a threat to themselves or others. The law is part of a broader statewide effort to make New Jersey’s gun laws even tougher amid the national outcry for more gun control in the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida.

Cottrell said the officers “danced around the issue” when he confronted them about the new law.

A New Jersey State Police spokesman declined to answer questions about whether this incident had anything to do with the new gun laws.

In an email, Sgt. First Class Jeff Flynn said, “Troopers responded to Mr. Cottrell’s residence in reference to the report of a possible school threat. Based on their investigation, it was determined that Mr. Cottrell’s weapons did not need to be seized.”

David Codrea, writing for Ammoland, further added:

To appease everybody, I had my firearms stored someplace else,” New Jersey gun owner and Army veteran Leonard Cottrell Jr. told New Jersey 101.5 after a June 14 visit from State Police,. “That way, during the course of the investigation, my son doesn’t have access to them and it’s on neutral ground and everything and everybody’s happy.”

Cottrell was recalling state troopers showing up at his door to confiscate firearms after his 13-year-old son was overheard discussing lax school safety with a friend.

Indoctrinated by a pervasive snitch culture — one that never seems to deter the blatantly obvious demonic nutjobs — the eavesdropping student told his parents, who told school administrators, who in turn called the cops. (Note “If you see something, say something” carries risks of its own – if you report the wrong person, you could end up smeared as a “hater.”)

“Cottrell said he made it very clear to the police that he was ‘not going to willingly give up my constitutional rights where there’s no justifiable cause, no warrants, no nothing,’” the report continued. Despite that, his home is now a “gun free zone” and that has been publicized by the media. He has, in fact, willingly ceded those rights, and by his own words in order to make authorities “happy.”

Before judging him for that, consider the environment that is New Jersey. Then consider the overwhelming force the state can bring to bear, and its predisposition to using it, especially if it’s to enforce citizen disarmament. It’s easy to anonymously declare “Molon Labe” on the internet. In meatspace, resistance is more effective when the aggressor doesn’t get to dictate the time and place, especially if that place is your home and you have family inside.

Appeasing gun-grabbers, generally couched as “compromise,” is impossible. It’s like throwing a scrap of flesh to a circling pack of jackals and expecting them to be sated and leave you alone — instead of sensing opportunity and fear, and moving in closer.

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