Will The West Collapse” Without Christian Revival?

"Judeo/Christian values is the glue which holds America together. These values are embedded into our great documents and are the foundional cornerstones to our society" Steve Eichler Tea Party/TeaParty.org

There has never been a successful and long-lasting atheistic civilization — and there never will be — is the opinion of many astute observers. And it’s also apparently the belief of radio giant Michael Savage, as he issued a dire warning on his Wednesday show.

“Unless Christianity receives a new enthusiasm that sweeps the Western world, and Christianity itself rises up against the forces against it,” he said, “the entire West will collapse in your lifetime.”

Savage, author of numerous best-selling books and host of the award-winning Savage Nation radio program, has long warned that the West is imperiled by “savages” from without and is being savaged by militant secularists within. Now, addressing the crux of the matter, Savage is adamant that the death of Christian belief portends the death of the West, as he said:

I can almost prove it. I can almost feel it. It’s palpable to me.

And I’m not the only who sees it or feels it. Anyone I know with a certain intelligence level above a minimal amount, sees what’s going on in Europe, and they say that we’re not far behind.

Presumably, Savage was referring to secular Europe’s acceptance of waves of unassimilable Muslim migrants — which include some jihadists — the Islamization of the continent, and the rapid moral decay bedeviling the entire West.

It’s plain to many that the erosion of the West’s foundational faith is synonymous with the erosion of her foundation. Our second president, John Adams, issued a warning to this effect, saying in 1798, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Note that the West could still rightly be called “Christendom” at the time, and the founders generally meant “Christian” when using the term “religious.” Thus, Adams clearly didn’t view Christianity as so many do today — as something to be kept “separate” at all costs lest it become an impediment to our constitutional government — but as a prerequisite for it.

Why? Well, British statesman Edmund Burke wrote in 1791, “Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites.” And George Washington addressed the origin of moral chains five years later when saying, “Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

While I won’t delve deeply into the link between religion and morality here (I did so in this piece), I will quote one of the many thinkers who did recognize it, Russian writer Fyodor Dostoevsky. As he wrote in his 1880 work The Brothers Karamazov, “If God does not exist, everything is permitted.” And this isn’t hard to understand: Without acceptance of the eternal, unchanging, divine author of right and wrong, all moral questions (and, in particular, answers) are met with the cynical “Says who?! Those are your values; don’t impose them on me!”

Of course, this explains how a once healthy civilization can collapse into self-imposed tyranny. A mature and moral adult who knows the “rules of life” can safely negotiate the world just as a mature driver acquainted with the rules of the road can safely navigate the highways and byways. But a small, uncivilized child must be watched — and often controlled — by mother or father or nanny.  The overgrown uncivilized child called a barbarian must be subject to the same, except the watchers in his case will be the cops and criminal-justice system. And as it is for individuals so it is for groups, even country-size ones. Only, their nanny is the nanny state.

As for a collapse inviting foreign domination, morality also plays a huge role. After all, an invading force would rather contend with a drug-addled, effete population given to dissolute living than a land of disciplined Spartans. Yet it’s easier still for the conquerors if their target is so out of touch with reality (and immoral living does reflect and encourage this, as it’s a rejection and usually a denial of moral reality) that it’s oblivious to danger.

Enter the modern West. To paraphrase Belgian playwright Émile Cammaerts, “When people cease believing in God, it’s not that they start to believe in nothing. It’s that they’ll believe in anything.” And what do we believe in today? When the Wall Street Journal’sBret Stephens wrote last year that the “death of Europe is in sight,” he opined that its people stand “for shallow things, shallowly. Europeans [only] believe in human rights, tolerance, openness, peace, progress, the environment, pleasure.” Yet it’s worse than that. There is only Truth, and then innumerable lies; disconnected from the former, a people inevitably falls victim to the latter, and we’re embracing lies only the insane could believe. Pseudo-elite dogma currently is that a boy must be considered a girl if he claims he is so “deep down,” even though the claim is made based on nothing but feelings. Moreover, we’re to be considered bigots for not participating in his delusion or for denying him access to the bathrooms of his choice. Then there’s that obsession with using Big Brother to coerce Christian businessmen into servicing faux weddings, which occurs while the Left makes not a peep when Muslim businessmen refuse to be party to them.

And treason is the norm. A former aide to ex-British prime minister Tony Blair admitted that massive Third World immigration into the United Kingdom was orchestrated by the Labour Party in order “to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date.” Swedish Social Democrat politician Mona Sahlin reveled in the Islamization of her nation,saying in 2001 “The Swedes must be integrated into the new Sweden; the old Sweden is never coming back.” Former UK “equality minister” Trevor Phillips — who helped popularize the debate-stifling term “Islamophobia” —just admitted that he “got almost everything wrong” on Muslim immigration in a 1996 report, saying he “should have known better” than to think Muslims would integrate. Now he sings a different politically correct tune, stating that it’s “disrespectful” to expect Muslims to assimilate. And all the while, more patriotic Europeans are punished under “hate speech” law for criticizing homosexuality or Islam.

Of course, there are fewer and fewer Europeans to punish all the time, as fertility rates among all Western peoples are below replacement level. So as religiosity increases most everywhere but the West, sneering, proudly secular Westerners are turning themselves into a dead-end “species.” And none of these problems would be occurring were we still robustly Christian.

Savage also mentions the Crusades and “what happened that saved Christianity,” as he put it. He was referring to how these events weredefensive campaigns designed to protect the West from Muslim invasion. And note: The Crusades were proposed and preached by the leader of Europe’s Christians, Pope Urban II.

Of course, this doesn’t mean we must send soldiers to the Holy Land, only that we must become a holier land. We must strive to be today’s Crusaders — meaning “those who are marked with a cross” — as we once again infuse that symbol into our minds and hearts.

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There must be a moral system in America, a system which looks to a higher power and understands we are here by the grace of G*d and not because we are good but because He is good. Otherwise, a nation without a spiritual compass will loose it's way and slowly disintegrate. 

Question is..................IS IT TOO LATE?


God help us.... where ever He is.


God is always at work around us, he is omnipresence, he invites us to take part in that work, which creates a spiritual crisis.  I believe that is where most Christians are at this point, knowing what God is about with his work, and for the believer a call to join him in that work is creating a spiritual crisis, which I pray, will bring about a Christian revival, making Christians right with God.  Nevertheless, God is all around us, would he let our nation fall?  Yes, I do believe he will, unless we return to our first love.

Yes, Rev. Helms, God is always at work around us.  My point is it is getting harder to see Him in the works of the people.  The prevalence of abortion and the efforts of some woman organizations to make abortions common place, defies seeing God at work.  Causes me to be a 'struggling' Christian. 

  I apologize for misunderstanding  the "Where ever he is" as perhaps he had left,  and you are most correct it is getting harder to see him in the works of the people, the works of the people are becoming more and more evil with each day that passes.  And as a Christian I can understand your struggle, and there is few pulpits that are addressing the situation of the evil at work, and I blame fellow pastors for bending to the political correctness of not offending someone.  It does not ease the spiritual war that is waging inside of us all.  I do try to understand the struggle.  Being retired from the pulpit, from time to time I am invited to various churches, to preach, and they know what I am going to preach on, what the Bible says, and apply it to the congregation.  that is how I always preached, and counseled. 

Again, I  apologize for misreading your remark.

No problem Rev.  I sometime think others can know what I am thinking with only a few words.  Well, people that know me well can just about read my mind.  I sometimes believe struggle is an intent of religion.  Right now I have a huge struggle with my Pope.  I honestly don't understand the man or what he is trying to teach.  It's not just me.  I understand many Bishops are franticly fiddling with their Rosy Beads concerned about where the Pope is coming from.  It's a struggle alright, but I like to think of it as putting one foot in front of the other.   


The only thing that I can say about the Pope, is that you need to understand in what part of the world he comes from, and where he worked so hard to deal with the poverty of the people, and perhaps that is where the problem comes from, it is called 'Liberation Theology'  which promotes the idea of equality through 'social justice' which is take from the rich and give to the poor until all have the same.  It is centered in liberal theology, which in turn, opens a whole can of worms, like extreme open mindedness, all tolerant, that includes sin as in homosexuality, and evil religions such as Islam, as is, and not any reformed Islamic movements among the sects.  and the conservative Bishops have biblical reasons to be nervous .... you sound grounded enough and strong enough in the faith to take it one step at a time, 

Once more I am thanking someone (you this time), for such a good conversation, something you cannot find on some other threads like FB Et Cetera;  Thank you.

Liberation theology has many variations and distinctions. Peter Maurin, the co founder of Catholic Workers with Dorthy Day was accused of being a Communist and he said he would listen to anyone who is for human dignity in the workday but was far from being Communist. Many thought Pope Leo's Rerum Novarum encyclical in the late 1800s was mixed with liberal theology but it stood the test of time for more than a 100 years as a standard for the right of workers to gather as one for the sake of their right to property which is the fruits of their labor.  

Hundreds have been  killed in South America just for trying to exercise this right. 

In my advocacy for workers dignity , the common good, local and value added economies and the real free enterprise system, I  have described the folly of free trade economics in several ways.  To point to the reality of it.  I have called free trade a nightmare and other things like it being an economic disease and economic cancer.  In my advocacy, I explore the latent response of religion and philosophy to the global economic arena.  Lately, I have called free trade a sin. I thought I was perhaps pushing things too far.  However, after reading about Bishop Oscar Romero who was murdered while saying mass in 1980 by a military officer who graduated from the School of Americas where the U.S. trains South Americans to support "security" in Central American and other South American countries.  Pope Francis took a ban off Romero's beatification  and now he is destined to become a saint in the Catholic Church.  After reading more about the debates around the ban , I now call free trade economics structural sin.  And here's why in my response to a friend who reviewed a book about the dark side of our world today. 

I am currently studying "structural sin" with Bishop Oscar Romero being beatified. Pope John Paul wrote about it and Pope Francis removed the ban of Romero's  beatification due to debates about his being a part of Liberation Theology. In 1980 Romero was shot through the heart while saying mass by a military officer who was a graduate of the School of Americans.

The reality of Salvadoran society forced his conversion into an outspoken, confrontational leader who directly attacked those who perpetuated what he called “structural sin:” “When the church hears the cry of the oppressed,” Romero wrote before his murder, “it cannot but denounce the social structures that give rise to and perpetuate the misery from which the cry arises.” If Romero was alive today, he would recognize trade coming TPP trade deal  along with the broader, disastrous policies Washington is pursuing in the

The Mexico-Central America-Colombia security corridor, as prime examples of “structural sin.”

The day before he was killed,Romero said,

(How easy it is to denounce structural injustice, institutionalized violence, social sin! And it is true, this sin is everywhere, but where are the roots of this social sin? In the heart of every human being. Present-day society is a sort of anonymous world in which no one is willing to admit guilt, and everyone is responsible. We are all sinners, and we have all contributed to this massive crime and violence in our country. Salvation begins with the human person, with human dignity, with saving every person from sin.)

In the debate about he being a martyr, some say he was killed for political reasons and not spiritual. This points to the very essence of the duality and  division between the day of worship and the rest of the week. Political life can not be divorced from our spiritual life. The darkness surrounding us as you review seep into our souls.  And  this is why  I now call free trade economics structural sin. Someone has to stop the sin of living off the suffering and our economies based on discounting the value and dignity of workers in our country and around the world must stop.  Ray Tapajna

http://tapsearch.com/ray-tapajna-journals  http://ray-tapajna-rational-economics  http://tapsearch.com/therational-journal 


Yes, the conversation is reinforcing and encouraging.  I have a title for my Pope.  I don't remember ever sharing it before.  The Pope of Good Intentions.  I pray there is something else there.  Something causing me to mumble, Ah, ha!  So that is where he is going.  I have reached the age to know the short comings of wishful thinking. 

When, at the last paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, we pledged to "the Supreme Judge of the World to Judge the Rectitude of our Intentions", we pledged Allegiance to The Creator, His Torah instruction, and His Name for safety, "YaHooVaH", "YaHoshua", the messeiah, the Elohim of yisrael. He is Living Torah, instruction of The Creator, found in the scriptures, Renewed Covenant after His resurrection, since animal sacrifice could not accomplish that. We are not to add or subtract from HIS moral law that protects us. We are blessed when we obey and cursed if we hate HIM to be lawless. Call on HIM. To change Allegiance and go with religion is Treason. Words are dangerous, Matthew 12. The world tries to change our allegiance. And, our Faith is important. Study all the scriptures, and, especially in paleo Hebrew knowledge.




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