Debra Rae: Me and others are saying what? I think you've got me confused with someone else. I haven't touched the Cruz eligibility issue.............ever. You would know that if you had actually read any of therm.
Obama's hidden records and other nefarious facts from the past intrigue me. I leave the Cruz issue to others who are hung up on that particular point and will probably stay there.
Logic... is it logical to elect an unlawful candidate? Fact, the Constitution is the fundamental law of the land, the underpinning of our republic. If we violate it with impunity, the Constitution becomes arbitrary and we no longer live under the rule of law... but under tyranny and the arbitrary application of the law.
The fact Ted Cruz is not eligible is more than relative... it is PRIMARY to the decision we make as voters. Do we want lawful government, Constitutional government, or are we prepared to live with the ARBITRARY application of the Constitution. The fact that we are debating this point suggests that our culture has already succumbed to the philosophy of relativism... where good and evil are only a point of view.
A candidate that is not Constitutionally eligible should not be a candidate... The public should not engage in the reckless flirtation with lawlessness. Those who see no problem with ignoring one part of the Constitution today, will find no problem in ignoring other parts of the Constitution tomorrow. Soon the Constitution will cease to be recognizable, and the arbitrary application of the law will replace the fundamental boundaries of the Constitution... we will be left with rule by edict and tyranny.
Not to mention that unalienable rights, when ignored along with the Constitution, will soon be replaced with all man-made rights, which may be given and then taken. Groups favored, others demeaned and then destroyed. The same modus operandi as Marx and Engels. That will be the result of our choice here. And we are part way there now.
Trump so far has stuck to his stands Constitutionally and he'd not go against the Constitution to pick an illegal non-citizen person like lying Ted.
Teddy is a man without a country currently - he has official citizenship to NO country. He is not a citizen here and is in the came boat as Obama is ! Exactly.
Giving up his lifelong Canadian citizenship does not AUTOMATICALLY make him a citizen of any other country including this one. He was ONLY a Canadian citizen all his life as Canada did not allow duel citizenship. So he was NOT an American citizens all his life as he is trying to make people believe ! He under-estimates our intelligence and knowledge. He will never be NBC an currently he is not a citizen at all ! He needs to go through naturalization and that takes a long time. Then he has to live AS A CITIZEN for 14 years here to run for an office.
Obama and Cruz could not be any more different - including with education - Obama has NONE ! Gosh he does not even know the basics !
Cruz has diplomas, teachers and students who remember him at those schools, and he was actually IN ATTENDANCE at the schools.
OBAMA WAS NOT !
Cruz's loyalty is 100% American.
Obama is 100% AGAINST THIS COUNTRY !
AS far as we know and can prove he has no more education then elementary school in Indonesia ! The reason he never showed any diplomas is because THERE ARE NONE !
As far as eligibility, until those with the condemning mouths do something about Obama, - since no one brought it up for over 7 years as the Foreigner in the Rainbow House destroyed this country, they need to shut up about Cruz. They lost the right to throw it at Cruz when they didn't at Obama - a REAL FOREIGNER !
With Trump as President, by executive order, he can mount an investigation into Obama's presidential qualifications to set the record straight. In addition, I would hope Pres. Trump calls on Congress to clear up the constitutional ambiguity over the exact definition of an Art. II, §I, Cl. 5 natural born citizen for the common good of the Republic. It is also extremely dangerous to have one of only three requirements to be the President of the United States undefined.
I cannot see Pres. Cruz calling for such an investigation, nor being interested in establishing the true definition of an in Art. II, §I, Cl. 5 natural born citizen as a person born exclusively under U.S. sovereignty.
I thought this was taken care of with the law on it passed back in the 70's ? That is the law the courts went with when they told Cruz he was eligible. Cruz checked once he was told he had Canadian citizenship - he never knew that all his life until he was told that 2 years ago.
The also have the lady Bachmann on the list as a NBC which she was until 2 years ago when she added Swiss citizenship to it. She is now a duel citizen as well - by choice.
When everyone thought Obama had an American born mother (since it has been shown otherwise by DNA) they were ready to claim him eligible on that alone even being born in Kenya. THAT is how far they were going to go for him !!
But one thing NEEDS fixing is that if American naturalized citizen parents (born in other countries but naturalized citizens at the birth of son) are on vacation and visiting a Foreign land and their baby is born there on Foreign soil during that visit, it leaves that baby in limbo according to most of the talk here.
Constitution would call that baby a NBC because both parents are naturalized citizens upon the birth and the yer just on vacation during the birth. But you guys don't because YOU require only NBC parents and on US soil both. That is the idea but no longer proof of loyalty with all the Muslims now here for two generations which makes them qualified by those rules.
Very dangerous rules in this day and age !
Loyalty is what needs to be the goal, not birth.
Yet these anchor babies are given NBC status being born here.
No other country has such a complicated system as the US does on this !
And it is very interesting that only the good guys are being blasted with this rule, not the bad guys, who already had this planned out and have also proven they can put anyone in office that THEY WANT, Foreign born or not. Citizen or not. Obama is not even a citizen here at all. But he's been in power for 7 LONG years - and not one has even tried to get rid of him ! Rules don't apply to an emperor has been PROVEN. His fictitious name is just put on the ballot without any requirements met and then all voting machines are fixed to put him in office ! Perfect Communist ploy.
Rules only seem to apply when it comes to the good guys.
Ted Cruz had a American citizen as a parent when he was born. So yes according to the constitution (as defined by constitutional experts) he is indeed qualified to run.
Again, if the candidate for POTUS had to have 'two' American citizens at the time of his or her birth .. then Chester Author would not have been a one term POTUS. He would have been impeached.
CHESTER A. ARTHUR WAS ALSO BORN IN Canada in 1829 - I saw a documentary on him and saw the tiny house he was born in up there. Has a huge sign in front of it as his birth place. He was the 21st US President. To cover up his real birth place, they list him as born in Vermont, but that is a lie. Par for the course for DC. His father was born in Ireland and came to Canada to settle, and his mother was from Vermont. Pretty much like Cruz situation.
Because the people of that day knew he was born in Canada, they distrusted him but once in office he was an amazing president and he left office being well loved and respected.
You can never trust or believe what is WRITTEN about anyone since DC makes sure it all reads as THEY want it to. most all of our "accepted" written history is a lie.
Pres. Arthur was born in Canada to a mother of US Citizenship, and too a father of foreign citizenship... under the same circumstances as Arthur. Arthur was not qualified neither is Cruz. Two wrongs don't equal a right... We either honor the Constitution by obeying it or we dishonor it by violating it.
READ it again. Most people are reading it wrong. They ignore what it actually says AFTER the "OR".
There are 2 ways given for a qualified candidate.