WATCH: U.S. Military Beat Up Border Wall Prototypes, Reveal Test Results

“Not many people are going to attempt to go over 30 feet.”



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30 feet of Concrete topped with 3 feet of electrified concertina wire... should work to keep out even the most aggressive illegal aliens...  by the way it should not cost 25 Billion to build 1,954 miles of border wall.  US Interstate highways ... the production of a 4-lane interstate highway, costs between $4 and $6 million to build in rural or suburban areas... with property expenses, overpasses, access, and rest areas. (see below for how these costs were figured) Interstate high ways with  lanes of reinforced concrete take more materials than a single 12 inch 30' wall to build... so the wall should be cheaper.

Figure the costs for 2000 miles of concrete wall equivalent to a 4 lane interstate highway using 6 million per mile and you have 12 Billion not 25 Billion... We are being lied to again... Either someone is out of their mind or wants to make the wall appear to expensive to build.  However,  Using the 6 million per mile figure for building Interstate Highways in urban areas, a 30' concrete wall, along the entire border, with all of its access roads, maintenance and border patrol facilities should not cost more than 12 Billion... less than half of what others are quoting.

http://blog.midwestind.com/cost-of-building-road/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–United_States_border

Come on Mr. Nelson, I sent you a link, let have a normal talk for a change??????

No Political Punts.......

Hank, you and Tif and the rest of our members, opt out to  8 to 6 to 1

And let Mr. Nelson be, that kind of information was over the top, opt it now.

Try speaking in English Henry... what the H are you trying to say? I thought we were in agreement... the Wall should be built ... it is effective as a deterrent and the costs are not prohibitive... they are over stated by more than double.

Pres. Trump also questioned the Establishments cost estimates... the estimates I made are based on similar types of construction... reinforced concrete slabs built over a wide range of terrain types.  12 Billion is more than enough to build a new 30 foot wall with all its accouterments. 

Its none of your business man, the comment was directed to us, not you Mr. Nelson.

 English one on one.

Well Hank... last I checked this is a public forum and the 1st Amendment is still functioning, albeit admittedly somewhat marginally.

Rude, abrasive, and unintelligible posts, add nothing to the discussion... 

 I guess Hank was rude, but my comment was for them, we have work to do, and I am not in the position to explain what my orders are to them.

It is not personal, Mr. Nelson, but if I explain in detail what I stated, then the whole world would know my intention.

Please build the Border Wall NOW!! No more evil / satanic / demonic muslims or their muslim brotherhood members or illegal immigrants from muslim brotherhood countries, or illegal drugs!!

United We Stand with Israel-Yisrael and our Judeo-Christian Nation United States of America, Divided We FALL!!

Blessed is a Nation who's our ONE TRUE GOD THE FATHER who art in Heaven Above and HIS SON Jesus-Yeshua Christ and HIS HOLY GHOST ( HOLY SPIRIT ), these THREE are ONE!!

Our ONE True GOD'S LOVE is ETERNAL THROUGH HIS SON Jesus-Yeshua Christ for Today and Everyday Forevermore Everyone!!

Love Always and Shalom ( Peace ) Everyone, YSIC \o/

Kristi Ann

Yep, build the wall !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So America don't turn into a shi*hole

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ALERT ALERT

Schumer Refusing To Help Border Kids
Wants To Hurt Trump Instead

The controversy over how underage illegal aliens are handled at the border is heating up — but Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer just rejected a good-faith proposal to fix the problem.

A growing number of people on both sides of the political aisle have expressed concern for border separations, which occur when migrants are caught breaking the law along the border while they have children with them, or when the often exploitative relationship between adults and minors at the border cannot be established.

A vast amount of mis-information and outright lying about the situation has muddied the water, making it tough to understand the situation in its entirety.

Both liberals and conservatives, however, have voiced their support for a better system that results in fewer family separations, and even President Donald Trump has indicated that he is willing to stand with Congress if they change the law.

Shockingly, however, it looks like one of the most well-known faces of the Democratic party isn’t willing to take action, and is instead playing politics in order to attack Trump.

On Tuesday, Schumer openly rejected a Republican proposal to fix the immigrant separation problem at the legislative level, and instead whined about the president.

“There are so many obstacles to legislation and when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense,” Schumer stated, according to The Hill.

“Legislation is not the way to go here when it’s so easy for the president to sign it,” he complained.

Democrats Reject Bill To Keep Families Together At Border – Schumer Says He “Wants To Keep Focus On Trump”

Think about that for a second: The president’s job is to execute existing laws. The legislature’s job is to change or enact new laws when needed.

A senator elected to the legislature for exactly that purpose is now refusing to do his job and pass legislation, while simultaneously blaming the president for enforcing the existing laws, as he is sworn to do.

If there was any doubt that Schumer and the Democrats are playing politics instead of trying to actually help migrant families, the senator made his intentions clear: Obstruct and point fingers at Trump.

“Asked if that meant Democrats would not support a bill backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to keep immigrant families together while seeking asylum on the U.S. border, Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump,” The Hill explained.

Make no mistake: The Democrats dragging their feet and refusing to back legislation already drafted by Republicans will prolong the problems at the border.

“Schumer’s opposition to a legislative fix means there likely won’t be a quick end to the emotional images of immigrant children being separated from their families unless Trump backs down,” The Hill reported.

“Democrats want to keep the pressure on Trump instead of having Congress assume responsibility for the growing crisis,” the news outlet continued.

Again: There’s a solution ready to go, with Republicans including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell ready to support it. Yet Democrats like Schumer apparently believe that scoring political points against Trump is more important than helping broken families on the border, even as their own liberal voters demand action.

“Congress alone can fix it,” stated Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen on Monday.

“I support, and all of the senators of the Republican conference support, a plan that keeps families together,” McConnell agreed.

“We need to fix the problem and it requires a legislative solution,” he said.

Yet Democrats refuse to budge.

This “do nothing but blame Trump” response from the left should prove beyond a doubt that all the tears and hand-wringing from liberals are disingenuous. They’re for show. If it was truly about helping innocent kids at the border, Schumer and his fellow Democrats could act right now.

If their priority was actually to solve the problem and help broken families, scoring points against Trump shouldn’t even be a concern. Even if they believed he was being stubborn on the issue, they could take the high road by doing their jobs and supporting bipartisan legislation.

They don’t, because solving the problem was never their goal. They are playing political games and using devastated children as pawns, while pretending that the president is the monster.

That’s sick… and the American people need to see exactly who is doing the obstruction.

SLAVEHOLDER??

Washington Post Compares
Jeff Sessions To Slaveholder’

The Washington Post compared Attorney General Jeff Sessions to “slaveholders” after he quoted the Bible on Thursday while discussing his department’s policy of prosecuting all illegal immigrants who cross the border.

Sessions made the statement during a speech to law enforcement officers in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

WaPo ran a story entitled “Sessions cites Bible passage used to defend slavery in defense of separating immigrant families” by general assignment editor Keith McMillan and religion reporter Julie Zauzmer on Friday.

Rather than detailing the statistics Sessions cited in the speech that explain the immigration policy, the story quoted John Fea, a history professor at Messiah College in Pennsylvania.

“This is the same argument that Southern slaveholders and the advocates of a Southern way of life made,” Fea said.

Sessions spent much of the speech discussing the numbers behind current immigration policy, including separating families at the Southwest border.

“I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained the government for his purposes,” Sessions said.

“Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves. Consistent and fair application of the law is in itself a good and moral thing, and that protects the weak and protects the lawful.”

“The previous administration wouldn’t prosecute aliens if they came with children,” Sessions said.

“It was de-facto open borders if you came with children. The results were unsurprising. More and more illegal aliens started showing up at the border with children.”

Sessions laid out the numbers in the speech.

“In 2013, fewer than 15,000 family units were apprehended crossing our border illegally between ports of entry in dangerous areas of the country,” he said.

“Five years later, it was more than 75,000, a five-fold increase in five years. It didn’t even have to be their child that was brought, it could be anyone. You can imagine that this created a lot of danger.”

The U.S. has the “opportunity” to fix its broken immigration system now, Sessions said.

“I believe that’s it’s moral, right, just and decent that we have a lawful system of immigration,” he said. “The American people have been asking for it.”

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