It has been suggested that The United States Declaration of Independence, was originally written in London England, the very first Document, draft, has stunned the world and this information is slowly make news in America.

 

Undated handout photo of a parchment manuscript of the US Declaration of Independence, believed to date from the 1780s and found in a records office in Chichester, southern England. 

(West Sussex Record Office Add Mss 8981 \via AP)

by Danica Kirka Associated Press

 

A unique copy of the U.S. Declaration of Independence has been discovered in an unexpected place - England.

The copy, similar to the one viewed by millions each year at the National Archives in Washington has been locked away in a local records office in southeastern England forgotten by historians. Its significance wasn't understood until recently, when Harvard researcher Emily Sneff stumbled on a mention in a catalog of the office's holdings. Something tickled her curiosity: the copy was written on parchment.

And when Sneff and Harvard professor Danielle Allen saw the document, they were stunned.

"I thought, 'Holy history, Batman!" Allen told The Associated Press on Monday. "We'd seen a lot of copies, but nothing like this."

Sneff and Allen's sleuthing led to a discovery that could shed new light on the founding document of the United States.

The team studied the document for two years and viewed it in person before sharing their conclusions with other historians last week.

The experts have dated what is now being called the "Sussex Declaration" to the 1780s — a time of political tumult before the Constitutional Convention, when the new nation was struggling to survive as a loose association of states governed by the Articles of Confederation.

The document is 24-inches-by-30 inches — the same size as the one housed at the National Archives. Also like the one at the archives, it is written by hand on parchment — the only two of their kind known to exist.

But there are also key differences. The names are not in the same order. For instance, John Hancock isn't listed first or writ large, and the signatories aren't grouped by state.

Historians believe the Sussex Declaration could have been owned by the Third Duke of Richmond, known as the "Radical Duke" because of his support for the American Revolution. The parchment came into the possession of a local lawyer who represented the family. It was deposited at the West Sussex Records Office in the 1950s.

But it remains unclear how the document got to Britain.

The researchers from the Declaration Resources Project plan to test the document this summer in an effort to clarify its provenance, and perform hyper-spectral imaging in hopes of deciphering text at the top of the parchment that appears to have been scraped off.

What is already clear is that the document was made during the tumultuous years after the American Revolution. Just after the signing of the declaration, copies were reproduced and distributed throughout the colonies and across the Atlantic to England. But the Sussex version was created a decade later and based on the original at the National Archives.

The Sussex Declaration is important because it underscores the arguments that divided the revolutionaries as they moved to establish a country. Historians have long debated whether there was continuity between the declaration and the Constitution or if it was a sharp break. The Sussex parchment suggests continuity. But it also has great import to the general public, Allen said.

One of the major debates of the time was whether the new nation would be based on the authority of the people or the authority of the states. The transcriber meticulously copied the declaration only to jumble the signatories as a political statement, giving weight to the people rather than the states, Allen said.

"This is really a symbolic way of saying we are all one people," she said.

It goes to the essence of debates that continue in the U.S., as typified by the fact that Hillary Clinton won last year's popular vote but Donald Trump became president because he won the Electoral College, which ensures the president is elected by a tally of states.

"This manuscript beautifully illuminates the nature of that puzzle," Allen said.

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King John maintained that he was coerced into drafting Magna Carta and consistently held that the King was above the law... we have that same attitude found in some members of our own government today.  Pres. Trump would be well advised to indict and prosecute several key members of the present and former government ... emphasizing that no one is above the law.  It would serve him well and the people would once more have their faith restored in the rule of law.

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 this finding by Tif, had a connection to it, Tif uncovered a scandal, she did a very good job exposing it.

HILLARY CLINTON AND THE DEMOCRAT OPERATIVES AND SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT NEED TO READ IT AND REALIZE THEY CAN'T CHANGE OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OR CONSTITUTION AT WILL. THEY TRIED SO MANY ILLEGAL WAYS TO TAKE THE ELECTION FROM DONALD TRUMP. THEY ARE SO BOLD AND ARROGANT THAT THEY CARE LESS WHAT WE THE PEOPLE THINK. YOU LOST THE ELECTION HILLARY AND OBAMA NEEDS TO KEEP HIS LONG PINOCCHIO NOSE OUT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY.

The The Declaration of Independence is the statement adopted by the Second Continental Congress meeting at the Pennsylvania State House (Independence Hall) in Philadelphia on July 4, 1776

Undated handout photo of a parchment manuscript of the US Declaration of Independence, believed to date from the 1780s

One of the major debates of the time was whether the new nation would be based on the authority of the people or the authority of the states. The transcriber meticulously copied the declaration only to jumble the signatories as a political statement, giving weight to the people rather than the states, Allen said.

 Do I see a little lie, once this document is carbon dated, will they release the true data.

 

 which announced that the thirteen American colonies, then at war with the Kingdom of Great Britain, regarded themselves as thirteen newly independent sovereign states, and no longer under British rule. Instead they formed a new nation—the United States of America. John Adams was a leader in pushing for independence, which was passed on July 2 with no opposing vote cast. A committee of five had already drafted the formal declaration, to be ready when Congress voted on independence. The term "Declaration of Independence" is not used in the document itself.

John Adams persuaded the committee to select Thomas Jefferson to compose the original draft of the document, which Congress would edit to produce the final version. The Declaration was ultimately a formal explanation of why Congress had voted on July 2 to declare independence from Great Britain, more than a year after the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War. The next day, John Adams wrote to his wife Abigail: "The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America." But Independence Day is actually celebrated on July 4, the date that the Declaration of Independence was approved.

After ratifying the text on July 4, Congress issued the Declaration of Independence in several forms. It was initially published as the printed Dunlap broadside that was widely distributed and read to the public. The source copy used for this printing has been lost, and may have been a copy in Thomas Jefferson's hand. Jefferson's original draft, complete with changes made by John Adams and Benjamin Franklin, and Jefferson's notes of changes made by Congress, are preserved at the Library of Congress. The best known version of the Declaration, a signed copy that is popularly regarded as the official document, is displayed at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. This engrossed copy was ordered by Congress on July 19, and signed primarily on August 2.

The sources and interpretation of the Declaration have been the subject of much scholarly inquiry. The Declaration justified the independence of the United States by listing colonial grievances against King George III, and by asserting certain natural and legal rights, including a right of revolution. Having served its original purpose in announcing independence, references to the text of the Declaration were few in the following years. Abraham Lincoln made it the centerpiece of his rhetoric (as in the Gettysburg Address of 1863), and his policies. Since then, it has become a well-known statement on human rights, particularly its second sentence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

This has been called "one of the best-known sentences in the English language", containing "the most potent and consequential words in American history". The passage came to represent a moral standard to which the United States should strive. This view was notably promoted by Abraham Lincoln, who considered the Declaration to be the foundation of his political philosophy, and argued that the Declaration is a statement of principles through which the United States Constitution should be interpreted.

The United States Declaration of Independence inspired many other similar documents in other countries, with its ideas gaining adherence in the Low Countries, as well as in the Caribbean, Spanish America, the Balkans, West Africa, and Central Europe in the decades up to 1848.

Sussex: Declaration of Independence The Truth- YouTube

 

Tif, the team and your dad made a video, Snapshots of the document show a date of July 4, 1776, for this The Sussex: Declaration of Independence Of the United States of America

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The Declaration Of The Thirteen States Of America

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Journals of Congress : Containing the proceedings from Sept. 5, 1774 to [3d day of November 1788] ..."

In their images you can not see the date, and the statement of no date is a lie, when you bring up the doc to 50 to 100% x mag, it looks like this

You dad said it looked like the document was nailed to a wall, and a dagger was stabbed into the center of it, later it was as you know, the doc was put in a desk and forgotten about.

Tif, the team and your dad made a video, Snapshots of the document show a date of July 4, 1776, for this The Sussex: Declaration of Independence Of the United States of America

  Titled as-           TR Cengiefs

The Declaration Of The Thirteen States Of America

 TR Cengiefs , which meaning- Cengiefs is willing to hope that the patriotiftri and goad fenfe of your ftate will be influenced \sy motives fo important, and they re- queft, fir, that you will be pleafed

Journals of Congress : Containing the proceedings from Sept. 5, 1774 to [3d day of November 1788] ..."

In their images you can not see the date, and the statement of no date is a lie, when you bing up the doc to 50 to 100% x mag, it looks like this

You dad said it looked like the document was nailed to a wall, and a dagger was stabbed into the center of it, later it was as you know, the doc was put in a desk and forgotten about.

Hank your comments did not post, but dad sent me the images,"Cengiefs " is like a messed up message, kind of weird.

this title"Cengiefs " the document is more like a declaration to build a people's Government, a first draft of Independence for the Republic.   It like the world's largest complaint.

date of July 4, 1776, for this The Sussex: Declaration of Independence Of the United States of America

  Titled as-           TR Cengiefs

The Unanimous Declaration Of The Thirteen States Of America

 TR Cengiefs , which meaning- Cengiefs is willing to hope that the patriotiftri and goad fenfe of your ftate will be influenced \sy motives fo important, and they re- queft, fir, that you will be pleafed

Journals of Congress : Containing the proceedings from Sept. 5, 1774 to [3d day of November 1788] ..."

when you bring up the doc to 50 to 100% x mag, it looks like this

agree, it looked like the document was nailed to a wall, and a dagger was stabbed into the center of it, later it was as you know, the doc was put in a desk and forgotten about.

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 Rush Limbaugh: Hillary Just Admitted To Everything
I’ve Been Trying To Warn People About The Democrats!ll  

(TeaParty.org) – Rush Limbaugh, the godfather of conservative punditry, has a hait of being right.

And he’s well aware of this.

During a recent show, the commentator pointed out that Hillary Clinton had recently confirmed everything he’s been saying about Democrats for years.

Clinton, whose recent interview with CNN journalist Christiane Amanpour made headlines for many of the stunning things she said, also made a call for non-civility because the Democrats are not in power.

“You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” she said. “That’s why I believe, if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again. But until then, the only thing that the Republicans seem to recognize and respect is strength.”

“(Hillary) pretty much admitted everything I have been trying to warn people of about the American left and the Democrat Party!” Limbaugh responded on his show.

“She went out and in her best Maxine Waters impersonation,” he continued. “She was encouraging people to be uncivil, and she was saying that it was justified being uncivil, given the opposition, the Republicans.”

Rush is well-aware that Democrats have only been feining civility whenever it suits their desperate pursuit of power.

“(I)f they win the House, then they can go back to being civil. If they win the Senate, then they can return to civility,” he summed up Clinton’s position.

“I mean, they’re making the case, they’re proving the point .… In all of this crazy, deranged, unhinged behavior of left-wing activists, I haven’t heard one elected Democrat denounce it,” he explained. “I haven’t heard one elected Democrat attempt to distance himself or herself or the party from it.”

The behavior he speaks of has been on full display in the attempt by an angry mob to disrupt Ted and Heidi Cruz’s dinner last month, and the angry mob that tried to knock down the 30-ton doors to the Supreme Court when Brett Kavanaugh was sworn in.

This is not a change in the tenor of Democrats, Limbaugh explained, but only them showing their true colors.

“They are all encouraging it. My point is: This is who they all are — and with Hillary Clinton now advocating this incivility,” he said.

“What did I tell you yesterday? We’re not in a battle of ideas anymore. We’re not in an argument over ideas,” he continued. “They don’t… They’re not even looking at any of this as about ideas.”

He explained that the right and the left vary not just in ideology, but in their fundmantal view of America.

“They see America today as flawed and illegitimate and, therefore, in need of a new set of defining values that will serve to unify the people who want to be part of America,” he continued.

“Not anything to do with our founding. Not the Constitution. Not the Declaration. That’s out the window ’cause all that’s tainted,” he said, explaining the way the left sees things. “All of that was written by a bunch of privileged white guys who were setting up a system for themselves and their families and their descendants.”

But we don’t even need Limbaugh to explain this…this comes right from the horse’s mouth:

Sarah Palin    @SarahPalinUSA

Rush Limbaugh: Hillary Literally Just Came Clean on Everything I’ve Been Saying About the Left

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo recently declared that “America was never great.”

Michelle Obama claimed to have never been proud of her country until they elected her husband.

Her husband openly admitted he wanted to “fundamentally transform” our country.

Maxine Waters refuses to backtrack on her call to harass GOP lawmakers in public.

All this while Antia wages war on anyone they disagree with, armed with whatever makeshift weapon the can scrape together.

They’re telling is what they’re up to. It’s time to start listening.

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