It has been suggested that The United States Declaration of Independence, was originally written in London England, the very first Document, draft, has stunned the world and this information is slowly make news in America.

 

Undated handout photo of a parchment manuscript of the US Declaration of Independence, believed to date from the 1780s and found in a records office in Chichester, southern England. 

(West Sussex Record Office Add Mss 8981 \via AP)

by Danica Kirka Associated Press

 

A unique copy of the U.S. Declaration of Independence has been discovered in an unexpected place - England.

The copy, similar to the one viewed by millions each year at the National Archives in Washington has been locked away in a local records office in southeastern England forgotten by historians. Its significance wasn't understood until recently, when Harvard researcher Emily Sneff stumbled on a mention in a catalog of the office's holdings. Something tickled her curiosity: the copy was written on parchment.

And when Sneff and Harvard professor Danielle Allen saw the document, they were stunned.

"I thought, 'Holy history, Batman!" Allen told The Associated Press on Monday. "We'd seen a lot of copies, but nothing like this."

Sneff and Allen's sleuthing led to a discovery that could shed new light on the founding document of the United States.

The team studied the document for two years and viewed it in person before sharing their conclusions with other historians last week.

The experts have dated what is now being called the "Sussex Declaration" to the 1780s — a time of political tumult before the Constitutional Convention, when the new nation was struggling to survive as a loose association of states governed by the Articles of Confederation.

The document is 24-inches-by-30 inches — the same size as the one housed at the National Archives. Also like the one at the archives, it is written by hand on parchment — the only two of their kind known to exist.

But there are also key differences. The names are not in the same order. For instance, John Hancock isn't listed first or writ large, and the signatories aren't grouped by state.

Historians believe the Sussex Declaration could have been owned by the Third Duke of Richmond, known as the "Radical Duke" because of his support for the American Revolution. The parchment came into the possession of a local lawyer who represented the family. It was deposited at the West Sussex Records Office in the 1950s.

But it remains unclear how the document got to Britain.

The researchers from the Declaration Resources Project plan to test the document this summer in an effort to clarify its provenance, and perform hyper-spectral imaging in hopes of deciphering text at the top of the parchment that appears to have been scraped off.

What is already clear is that the document was made during the tumultuous years after the American Revolution. Just after the signing of the declaration, copies were reproduced and distributed throughout the colonies and across the Atlantic to England. But the Sussex version was created a decade later and based on the original at the National Archives.

The Sussex Declaration is important because it underscores the arguments that divided the revolutionaries as they moved to establish a country. Historians have long debated whether there was continuity between the declaration and the Constitution or if it was a sharp break. The Sussex parchment suggests continuity. But it also has great import to the general public, Allen said.

One of the major debates of the time was whether the new nation would be based on the authority of the people or the authority of the states. The transcriber meticulously copied the declaration only to jumble the signatories as a political statement, giving weight to the people rather than the states, Allen said.

"This is really a symbolic way of saying we are all one people," she said.

It goes to the essence of debates that continue in the U.S., as typified by the fact that Hillary Clinton won last year's popular vote but Donald Trump became president because he won the Electoral College, which ensures the president is elected by a tally of states.

"This manuscript beautifully illuminates the nature of that puzzle," Allen said.

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King John maintained that he was coerced into drafting Magna Carta and consistently held that the King was above the law... we have that same attitude found in some members of our own government today.  Pres. Trump would be well advised to indict and prosecute several key members of the present and former government ... emphasizing that no one is above the law.  It would serve him well and the people would once more have their faith restored in the rule of law.

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HILLARY CLINTON AND THE DEMOCRAT OPERATIVES AND SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT NEED TO READ IT AND REALIZE THEY CAN'T CHANGE OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OR CONSTITUTION AT WILL. THEY TRIED SO MANY ILLEGAL WAYS TO TAKE THE ELECTION FROM DONALD TRUMP. THEY ARE SO BOLD AND ARROGANT THAT THEY CARE LESS WHAT WE THE PEOPLE THINK. YOU LOST THE ELECTION HILLARY AND OBAMA NEEDS TO KEEP HIS LONG PINOCCHIO NOSE OUT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY.

The The Declaration of Independence is the statement adopted by the Second Continental Congress meeting at the Pennsylvania State House (Independence Hall) in Philadelphia on July 4, 1776

Undated handout photo of a parchment manuscript of the US Declaration of Independence, believed to date from the 1780s

One of the major debates of the time was whether the new nation would be based on the authority of the people or the authority of the states. The transcriber meticulously copied the declaration only to jumble the signatories as a political statement, giving weight to the people rather than the states, Allen said.

 Do I see a little lie, once this document is carbon dated, will they release the true data.

 

 which announced that the thirteen American colonies, then at war with the Kingdom of Great Britain, regarded themselves as thirteen newly independent sovereign states, and no longer under British rule. Instead they formed a new nation—the United States of America. John Adams was a leader in pushing for independence, which was passed on July 2 with no opposing vote cast. A committee of five had already drafted the formal declaration, to be ready when Congress voted on independence. The term "Declaration of Independence" is not used in the document itself.

John Adams persuaded the committee to select Thomas Jefferson to compose the original draft of the document, which Congress would edit to produce the final version. The Declaration was ultimately a formal explanation of why Congress had voted on July 2 to declare independence from Great Britain, more than a year after the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War. The next day, John Adams wrote to his wife Abigail: "The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America." But Independence Day is actually celebrated on July 4, the date that the Declaration of Independence was approved.

After ratifying the text on July 4, Congress issued the Declaration of Independence in several forms. It was initially published as the printed Dunlap broadside that was widely distributed and read to the public. The source copy used for this printing has been lost, and may have been a copy in Thomas Jefferson's hand. Jefferson's original draft, complete with changes made by John Adams and Benjamin Franklin, and Jefferson's notes of changes made by Congress, are preserved at the Library of Congress. The best known version of the Declaration, a signed copy that is popularly regarded as the official document, is displayed at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. This engrossed copy was ordered by Congress on July 19, and signed primarily on August 2.

The sources and interpretation of the Declaration have been the subject of much scholarly inquiry. The Declaration justified the independence of the United States by listing colonial grievances against King George III, and by asserting certain natural and legal rights, including a right of revolution. Having served its original purpose in announcing independence, references to the text of the Declaration were few in the following years. Abraham Lincoln made it the centerpiece of his rhetoric (as in the Gettysburg Address of 1863), and his policies. Since then, it has become a well-known statement on human rights, particularly its second sentence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

This has been called "one of the best-known sentences in the English language", containing "the most potent and consequential words in American history". The passage came to represent a moral standard to which the United States should strive. This view was notably promoted by Abraham Lincoln, who considered the Declaration to be the foundation of his political philosophy, and argued that the Declaration is a statement of principles through which the United States Constitution should be interpreted.

The United States Declaration of Independence inspired many other similar documents in other countries, with its ideas gaining adherence in the Low Countries, as well as in the Caribbean, Spanish America, the Balkans, West Africa, and Central Europe in the decades up to 1848.

Sussex: Declaration of Independence The Truth- YouTube

 

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The Declaration Of The Thirteen States Of America

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Journals of Congress : Containing the proceedings from Sept. 5, 1774 to [3d day of November 1788] ..."

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You dad said it looked like the document was nailed to a wall, and a dagger was stabbed into the center of it, later it was as you know, the doc was put in a desk and forgotten about.

Tif, the team and your dad made a video, Snapshots of the document show a date of July 4, 1776, for this The Sussex: Declaration of Independence Of the United States of America

  Titled as-           TR Cengiefs

The Declaration Of The Thirteen States Of America

 TR Cengiefs , which meaning- Cengiefs is willing to hope that the patriotiftri and goad fenfe of your ftate will be influenced \sy motives fo important, and they re- queft, fir, that you will be pleafed

Journals of Congress : Containing the proceedings from Sept. 5, 1774 to [3d day of November 1788] ..."

In their images you can not see the date, and the statement of no date is a lie, when you bing up the doc to 50 to 100% x mag, it looks like this

You dad said it looked like the document was nailed to a wall, and a dagger was stabbed into the center of it, later it was as you know, the doc was put in a desk and forgotten about.

Hank your comments did not post, but dad sent me the images,"Cengiefs " is like a messed up message, kind of weird.

this title"Cengiefs " the document is more like a declaration to build a people's Government, a first draft of Independence for the Republic.   It like the world's largest complaint.

date of July 4, 1776, for this The Sussex: Declaration of Independence Of the United States of America

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The Unanimous Declaration Of The Thirteen States Of America

 TR Cengiefs , which meaning- Cengiefs is willing to hope that the patriotiftri and goad fenfe of your ftate will be influenced \sy motives fo important, and they re- queft, fir, that you will be pleafed

Journals of Congress : Containing the proceedings from Sept. 5, 1774 to [3d day of November 1788] ..."

when you bring up the doc to 50 to 100% x mag, it looks like this

agree, it looked like the document was nailed to a wall, and a dagger was stabbed into the center of it, later it was as you know, the doc was put in a desk and forgotten about.

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LIGHTER SIDE

ALERT ALERT

Clinton Donor And Tax Cheat Tied To Russia

“Do as we say, not as we do.”

That seems to be the slogan for Hillary Clinton and her political allies, and it’s especially apt in light of new information about one of Clinton’s largest campaign donors.

While the left is still trying to attack President Trump and his family over unproven business dealings and largely debunked connections to Russia, a new report indicates that it was Hillary Clinton’s team who were doing those exact things.

“Fox News has learned that one of the top donors to the ‘Hillary Victory Fund’ (HVF) in 2016 was a Los Angeles-based attorney who is alleged to have misused company funds to create his own $22 million real estate portfolio,” that outlet reported on Thursday.

“He has also been considered by California to be one of the state’s biggest tax cheats, and allegedly has ties to the (Russian) Kremlin,” Fox continued.

The man’s name is Edgar Sargsyan. His deep pockets greatly benefited Clinton’s campaign, with contributions of at least $250,000 to the Hillary Victory Fund in 2016.

He was also in charge of an elite fundraising dinner to benefit Clinton, where donors paid $100,000 per couple just to attend the ritzy event. But in true Clinton fashion, the money apparently went missing.

Sargsyan is now “being sued by his former company for allegedly diverting those funds to start his own real estate company,” according to Fox.

Now, people are asking hard questions about Clinton’s buddy Sargsyan, including whether his contributions were part of a pay-to-play scheme and if he had shady connections to foreign governments.

“Nobody gave to the Hillary Victory Fund out of the goodness of their heart or some generalized desire to help 33 random state parties,” pointed out attorney Dan Backer from the Committee to Defend the President.

“They did so to buy access and curry influence — something the Clintons have been selling for nearly three decades in and out of government,” he continued.

Trying to buy political influence is sadly common, especially when it comes to the Clintons. What is raising more red flags than normal, however, is the evidence that Sargsyan is no run-of-the-mill campaign donor.

“The really scary question is, what did this particular donor with this strange web of connections hope to buy for his quarter-million dollars?” Backer asked Fox News.

That web of connections is strange indeed.

The Committee to Defend the President is now alleging that SBK, a major Sargsyan-linked company “is an investment firm that is affiliated with United Arab Emirates president, Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahyan, and its international affiliate has business interests in Russia,” according to Fox.

“Among its dealings was a bid to finance $850 million for a major bridge project to connect Crimea with Russia,” the group claims.

“He worked for SBK, and SBK appears to have bid on some Crimean/Russian bridge project,” Backer said. “That’s usually an indicator of political favor and connections.”

It raises several chilling questions: Was Sargsyan paying a quarter million dollars to Clinton for political favors, and — more disturbingly — was that money actually from sources in Russia in order to smooth the way for its construction plans?

Nobody knows for sure. What is clear, however, is that there is a pattern of dirty money surrounding the Clintons, with the “Uranium One” and “Clinton Foundation” scandals just two of the most well-known examples.

“It reinforces how fast and loose the Clinton machine was when it came to ‘Hoovering up’ these megadonor checks, not just from questionable Hollywood and Wall Street elites but potentially from foreign influence peddlers using who knows what money,” Backer told Fox News.

“It reinforces the need to take a long hard look at not just the unlawful money laundering process, but the way in which they were solicited as well,” he continued. “The Clintons have never shown a great deal of concern for whomever it was cutting the checks — whether it’s foreign influence peddlers or Hollywood smut peddlers like Harvey Weinstein.”

If those claims are even partially true, then America dodged a bullet in November of 2016 — and it’s worth keeping the pile of foreign-connected Clinton scandals in mind the next time the left tries desperately to tie Donald Trump to Russia. Perhaps they should look in the mirror.

SLAVEHOLDER??

Washington Post Compares
Jeff Sessions To Slaveholder’

The Washington Post compared Attorney General Jeff Sessions to “slaveholders” after he quoted the Bible on Thursday while discussing his department’s policy of prosecuting all illegal immigrants who cross the border.

Sessions made the statement during a speech to law enforcement officers in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

WaPo ran a story entitled “Sessions cites Bible passage used to defend slavery in defense of separating immigrant families” by general assignment editor Keith McMillan and religion reporter Julie Zauzmer on Friday.

Rather than detailing the statistics Sessions cited in the speech that explain the immigration policy, the story quoted John Fea, a history professor at Messiah College in Pennsylvania.

“This is the same argument that Southern slaveholders and the advocates of a Southern way of life made,” Fea said.

Sessions spent much of the speech discussing the numbers behind current immigration policy, including separating families at the Southwest border.

“I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained the government for his purposes,” Sessions said.

“Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves. Consistent and fair application of the law is in itself a good and moral thing, and that protects the weak and protects the lawful.”

“The previous administration wouldn’t prosecute aliens if they came with children,” Sessions said.

“It was de-facto open borders if you came with children. The results were unsurprising. More and more illegal aliens started showing up at the border with children.”

Sessions laid out the numbers in the speech.

“In 2013, fewer than 15,000 family units were apprehended crossing our border illegally between ports of entry in dangerous areas of the country,” he said.

“Five years later, it was more than 75,000, a five-fold increase in five years. It didn’t even have to be their child that was brought, it could be anyone. You can imagine that this created a lot of danger.”

The U.S. has the “opportunity” to fix its broken immigration system now, Sessions said.

“I believe that’s it’s moral, right, just and decent that we have a lawful system of immigration,” he said. “The American people have been asking for it.”

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