Great information shared by our member by Jim Fogarty. You will see this resembles the Feinstein bill shared in another discussion.
The following is excerpted from a 1994 agenda memo from Handgun Control, Inc. (Now the Brady Campaign) The memo was mailed to me by a federal police officer I used to know, so I trust the source:
"Notes and minutes of Meeting of Friday, December 17, 1993. Rough Draft Proposal for Internal Memo and Five Year Plan"."Confidential Not For general Distribution".
"Special praise to Senator Dianne Feinstein was mentioned for her courage in standing up to the ever diminishing number of GUN CRAZY EXTREMISTS who are actually pushing to make our society a KILLING FIELD."
"What is pending now and can be law in 1994!...Ban ON ALL SEMIAUTOS WHICH CAN FIRE MORE THAN 6 BULLETS WITHOUT RELOADING." ..."Ban of all machine guns, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES , short shotguns/rifles, assault weapons..."...."Ban on possession of a firearm within a home located within 1000 feet of schoolyard." ..."Ban on all realistic replicas/toy guns or non-firearms capable of being rendered realistic."..."The right of victims of gun violence to sue manufacturers and dealers to be affirmed and perhaps aided with money from government programs."...."Taxes on ammo, dealers licenses & guns to offset the medical costs to society."...."the eventual ban of all semi-automatics " – 1994 HCI Agenda Memo
"Five year plan: Licenses:"...."It is reasonable to require that all individuals must prove to the signers that they require a firearm."..."Reduction of the number of guns to require an arsenal license"..."due to the fact that any number of guns constitutes a grave threat to the safety of the community"..."no arsenal licensing be permitted in counties with populations of more than 200,000"..."requirement of federally approved storage safe for all guns"...
"Public Safety Regulations": "Ban on Manufacturing in counties with a population of more than 200,000". Guns are being built all the time and the number of licensed manufacturers are too great to justify the threat to public safety"..."The pending national ban on all assault weapons... can be expanded to eventually cover any firearm with a remotely military appearance."...."We hope that this point system can eventually be expanded to high powered air guns and "paint ball" weapons, which can inflict great damage, and with a little effort can be easily converted into real guns." ..."Banning the carrying of a firearm anywhere but home or range or in transit from one to the other."..."Control of ammunition belonging to certain surplus firearms: Senator Moynihan has already proposed a tax or ban on .22LR, 32 ACP, and 25 ACP , and 9 MM ammo,..."......"Eventual ban of handgun possession: This may be closer to reality than many of us think. Handguns are becoming increasingly unpopular and we think that within five years we can enact a total ban on possession at the federal level."...
"Ammunition and explosives: Banning of any quantity of smokeless powder or black powder which would constitute more than the equivalent of 100 rounds of ammunition. With the bombing of the World Trade Center, it has been made clear that WE MUST CONTROL ( yes the key phrase here is "we must control" everyone else's life and allow no freedom! ) the amount of explosive materials in public hands." ..."Ban on the possession of explosive powders of more than I kilogram at any one time. GUN NUTS ARE NOTORIOUS FOR CIRCUMVENTING THE INTENT OF THE LAW..."..."This additional language can be useful in preventing "Bomb-Maker" Hobbyists and other DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS ."..."Banning or strict licensing of all reloading components. Ammunition regulation laws can be regularly bypassed by home loaders..."..."National registration of ammunition or ammo buyers"..."with a possible background check to eliminate the purchase of dangerous ammo by felons or MENTAL PATIENTS."
"Gun ranges: ...waiting period for rentals on pistol ranges"
"Activities which promote gun violence: Banning Gun Shows..."BANNING OF MILITARY REENACTMENTS: THE QUESTIONABLE "HISTORICAL" VALUE OF THESE EVENTS HAS ESCAPED PUBLIC SCRUTINY FOR TOO LONG. MANY OF THESE SO CALLED HISTORICAL EVENTS ARE A MERE EXCUSE FOR GUN NUTS TO BLAST THE COUNTRYSIDE WITH AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. WHAT IS TO KEEP THEM FROM LOADING LIVE BULLETS AND HAVING THOSE STRAY BULLETS KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN?"... Begin to curb hunting on all public lands. Blood sports are an anathema to a civilized society..." ..."MAKING GUN OWNERS RECORDS AND PHOTOS MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD"...SO THAT COMMUNITIES CAN HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHO POSES A DANGER TO THEIR COMMUNITY BEFORE DISASTER STRIKES" ..."Random police checks for weapons "...
"Banning of military accouterments: Essential to the NEANDERTHAL GUN CULTURE are the typical military clothing, CAMOUFLAGE, POUCHES, and gear, BOOTS and other combat gear ....Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century"...
"Stricter guidelines for violence in television and the movies: We should look at the possibility of victims of violence initiated by copying an act on television and the movie or video screen, suing the makers of such shows for compensation to their suffering."...
"THE TOTAL ELIMINATION OF ARMS FROM SOCIETY: "
"CONTROL OF DANGEROUS LITERATURE ( bomb making, machine gun conversions, etc.) Too much irresponsible material is purportedly covered by the 1ST AMENDMENT, however the time will come when our nation has to agree THAT SOME LITERATURE DOES NOT BELONG IN A SAFE SOCIETY..." ... "We must realize that THERE CAN BE SUCH A THING AS TOO MUCH FREEDOM where such literature poses a serious threat to the public safety."
"1994 sounds like the death knell for the bully tactics of the NRA and the culture of violence in America!!"..."With the loss of power and clout of the NRA and their various smaller crony organizations crumbling to dust, we can eliminate a 200 YEAR OLD LICENSE TO MURDER into history and enter the 21st century a safer place for our children and our children’s children."
"THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS CONFIDENTIAL!! DO NOT DISTRIBUTE BEYOND THE OFFICES OF HCI UNLESS HAND DELIVERED TO AN APPROVED STATE OF FEDERAL LEGISLATOR OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL . ..Handgun license fees: year 1 to 2"..."year 3 to 4"..."year 5 to 8: ...$550-625 annual fee...suggested penalties for non-compliance...failure to turn over guns for destruction...$15,000/18 months in jail...The federal government estimates that around 65-75 million Americans own guns. These fees and licensing requirements would allow us to take guns out of the hands of an estimated 30 million unsuitable or ineligible individuals. The fees for the remaining qualifying individuals would additionally reduce the number to about 14 million gun owners"....
"OUR EVENTUAL GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LICENSEES TO ZERO . The revenue itself can be utilized to achieve this goal." ....Establish a nationwide system of toll free numbers for reporting violators of the new gun restrictions and non-licensees. " ..."Suing gun organizations under the RICO statute: It would be expected that gun groups and lobbying groups such as the NRA would encourage non compliance. Thus nationally recognized groups will be technically "organizing to break the law. Once this can be proven, these groups will be vulnerable to lawsuits based on the RICO statute and drained of their financial resources through repeated legal action."
"Suing the makers of toy/replica guns, toy weapons and violent entertainment:....The items could include: violent video games, television shows, movies, video tapes, WATER GUNS, SUPER SOAKERS, electronic noise guns, toy weapons like swords, batons, martial arts items."
"TORT LAW AS WE KNOW IT MAY NOT HAVE TO UNDER GO A CHANGE IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THESE ACTIONS. AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO ACTUALLY WIN IN ORDER TO AFFECT CHANGE, SINCE THE CONSTANT THREAT OF LEGAL ACTION WILL INDUCE CHANGE IN THE WAY PEOPLE DO BUSINESS. "
" A QUICK GUIDE TO ARGUING WITH GUN ZEALOTS:....Our children are being threatened, murdered and cut down in the street...With tens of millions of people owning guns, the potential for lawlessness and gun massacres increases ten fold each year...THERE IS NO SPORTING PURPOSE FOR A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM ...HANDGUNS HAVE NO PURPOSES OTHER THAN KILLING PEOPLE .....SELF DEFENSE IS NO LEGITIMATE REASON FOR OWNING A GUN ... MOST GUN DEALERS SELL THOUSANDS OF GUNS ILLEGALLY TO GANGS AND CRIMINALS EVERY DAY."
" Repeat these FACTS over and over and eventually the public will begin to see the light. They cannot casually dismiss these devastating facts any more.....REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE DEFENDING THE RIGHT TO MURDER IN OUR COUNTRY. THIS ALONE MAKES THEM LOOK BRUTISH AND NEANDERTHAL...IT IS BECOMING LESS AND LESS POLITICALLY CORRECT TO OWN A GUN. Ultimately society as a whole will look upon gun owners with dread and disdain."
"Other pressing points: Military assault weapons: The confusion by the general public between semi-automatic and automatic weapons can work in our favor. Constantly dropping the words- submachine gun, fully automatic , machine gun, military weapon, high tech killing machine are good debaters tricks to instill a sense of dread over these weapons. Ultimately people will learn to dread these weapons..."
"Remember that there is no place for any kind of semi auto weapon in a safe society regardless of how it looks, since many so called sport rifles can be easily converted to military configuration. Thus all semi automatic weapons are capable of being called "assault weapons". Never let up on this fact."
"Endangerment of children: It is difficult for Gun groups to counter arguments which call attention to the endangerment of children. Making the opposition look callous creates an image of brutality and indifference to the audience...Enough is enough: Americans are sick and tired of the violence that is infecting our society...it is time for action, to take back our streets from crime, if we don't take action now this crime wave will engulf America" ( crime's been going down, sorry to disappoint you )
"Assault weapons are the weapons of choice for gangs , mentally deficient individuals and criminals across the board. The gun lobby argues that anyone at any time should have the right to buy and own these weapons of mass destruction"
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Why are you surprised that evil is doing what evil always does???
Permalink Reply by Buck Crosby on February 10, 2013 at 11:31am This is the wish list for all the gungrabbers , mostly to get total control over ALL Americans but especially anyone that would resist government excess . I say we ban ALL liberals , progressives , socialists , communists and fascists from holding ANY government office on the basis that they are all incompatible with our constitutionally protected rights from a rogue government .
Permalink Reply by David Beaufeaux on February 10, 2013 at 12:29pm Right on.
Permalink Reply by David Beaufeaux on February 10, 2013 at 12:28pm These are fighting words to any patriot.
Permalink Reply by Jerry Morris on February 10, 2013 at 3:09pm "...a Democracy cannot exist with a biased press."
A Democracy cannot exist for long, period. It is, by its very nature (Human Nature), self-destructive. That is why the founders created a Republic for us.
Using the Alinski tactics against the left, CAN work, if done right. The main strategy is to keep the opposition on the defensive at all times, controling the debate. We must put our opponents on the defensive.
They say that the best "defense" is a good "offense". So let's stop wasting so much time defending our stance and attack theirs. Don't attack the messengers, attack their message.
Permalink Reply by Jerry Morris on February 10, 2013 at 5:45pm Then don't argue with the Alinski-ites.
Instead, we educate ourselves and as many others as we can as to the Constitution. It IS the "Supreme Law of the Land".
Then we start letting our elected officials KNOW that WE understand the Constitution and demand that they uphold it. Tell them that if they DON'T, THEY GET FIRED!
Permalink Reply by mark e. morris on February 10, 2013 at 3:45pm Wolverines sounds like the perfect name for the movement to stop Obama from destoying america any more than he has. It is time to put him back on a boat and send him back to his birth place and we all know where that is.
Permalink Reply by Jerry Morris on February 10, 2013 at 5:39pm The NRA isn't the only group suing the A-holes in government. The thing that I'm finding is that none seem to be arguing the "Supremacy Clause" (Article VI, paragraph 2) in support of the 2nd Amendment. I'm also finding that there are allot of folks that don't want to go THAT FAR in defending the 2nd. There are NO EXCEPTIONS in the text or language of the 2nd, as to who can or can't "keep and bear Arms", nor as to what type "Arms" the people can or can't "Keep and bear". Fed and State laws that prohibit "certain persons" (Felons and crazies) from "keeping and bearing Arms" is a violation of the 2nd Amendment, but yet, most people are OK with that.
Until the 2nd Amendment has been amended to reflect such desired "exceptions" all State and Federal laws that restrict or regulates, in any way, any persons "right to keep and bear Arms" are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and should be considered NULL and VOID.
So, before we are going to be able to get all the pro-2nd Amendment and pro-Constitution groups together, we're going to have to ALL get on the same page as to what the US Constitution is and what it means. We're all also going to have to accept, that the Constitution isn't always going to support everything any of us might want of/from government. There's allot of stuff that we the people have to deal with ourselves, or leave alone, what ever the case may be.
Permalink Reply by Roberto Benitez on February 12, 2013 at 9:42am Charles Calhoun, guns can be banned through a legal constitutional process. So your call for "the people who formulated this "secret" memo should be imprisoned for subversion" has no basis in law or the Constitution. That is because they were advocating changing the Second Amendment which is protected under the First Amendment.
So what we have to do is convince people of the truth of Justice Story's, who appointed to the SCOTUS by the Constitution’s principal author James Madison, argument that "The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
What Justice Story argued was that if the government could change or eliminate the Second Amendment then none of the rest of the Bill of Rights would be safe, not that there's much left of the Bill of Rights save the Third Amendment, so far.
Permalink Reply by Joshua Radcliffe on February 16, 2013 at 11:16pm This is appalling to say the least. We as Americans cannot allow this to take place, so that only gangs crossing the border at an alarming rate can posses weapons to destroy (AK-47). Please read this link to FBI statistics about violent gangs arriving in our society to prey on the disarmed and helpless American citizens. I will not lay down my self-defense rifles no matter what corrupt regime holds "power" in this country. I will not watch this country of laws fall into a battlefield of lawlessness just because ignorant politicians use state controlled media to hype the sheep of this nation. We have a duty to protect our innocent children from would-be murderous rapists gangs.
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-t...
Permalink Reply by DARYL KLINEDINST on February 19, 2013 at 7:26pm COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA AT IT'S WORST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Permalink Reply by Bradley Bryant Hill on February 22, 2013 at 12:33pm Daphne goes to Congress - Out of the Mouths of Babes
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