Have a T-P Pre-Primary to avoid sure defeat // Implement a drive to recruit and organize into each precinct

This discussion needs your direct support or direct critique that I might respond.  Other idea's please start in a new discussion (note: this has been revised after 400+ comments, but if possible read all of them) thank you for your time: (revised July 20th,'13)

I thought it would be helpful (stike that, it's absolutely imperative!!!!)  to have a T Party pre-primary prior to the RINO primary so we wouldn't split our vote.  That thread sort of grew to the following two steps:

The following two step approach would require a temporary meeting of the minds from the various larger conservative Tea Party factions for the following purposes::

1. Having a pre-primary to avoid the late RINO primary so we avoid splitting our vote and being able to get out there now to campaign because we have some serious hills to climb (our message, government news and funding etc.). But the main point here is that we always split our votes in the regular RINO primary, we need to avoid this.  We need some sort of (temporary or other) unified effort of all the un-unified groups for this purpose.  Make sure you don't miss a word utilized here and that the whole 'idea' is understood.  Along with this we also need to have the above bonded with the following item number 2, as follows:

2. Implement a plan to organize and recruit deep into every precinct for the T-Party.

This would include the larger T-P groups to supply their associated local smaller groups with solid information to be distributed and used as a means to educate both door to door and if possible via ads in their local news papers when feasible. (with an increase in some recruiting, this can work - I've checked out the cost).

We have great web sites on the internet but many republican’s, democrats and independents don’t go there.  We need a serious ground team for all of our upcoming elections.  Many of our small groups are getting smaller and many not associated would like to be contacted by us.  Our idea's are solid but we're mainly singing to the choir.  We need to open our doors and windows and move into our communities. This comment needs a bit more explaining but I know it's solid.  In many of my postings in this discussion, I've explained it better and longer.  In short, we need to 'recruit, educate and promote'.  We recruit first, be fed by the larger groups in order to, move into the streets to inform and when feasible w/ just some higher recruiting - IT IS POSSIBLE for the smaller groups to have 's o m e' newspaper exposure on a regular bi/weekly < > time to promote our beliefs. Also, at your local meetings you need a precinct map where you pin-point what precincts your members live in; with a strong eye on having representation in all of your precincts.  This will probably require to hit the streets some time.  This is where we win or not. This has to be a consistent part of some part of all your meetings, to work these precincts, understand this - this is vital.

I hope more of you will catch this vision.  First, understand it ..... thank you for your time.

PS: please help spread this word about this to your friends and other T-Party groups; as many as you can at this url:


Also: The Patriot Vetting Committee (http://patriotvoting.com) has been offering support to get patriot groups together in each state to do this work in a consensus-building manner.

See Lee Havis posting around page 29 (I think) : lee@patriotvoting.com

In order to organize into every precinct, we will need some tools.  Please watch the two video links below.

They deal with the nuts and bolts of American Politics, so they are boring, but, short.

Never-the-less, they contain needed information.  The last link is to the host site, which if we all used it as part of our political tool box would make a world of difference.

OR HERE: =========================

The "True Business of the Precincts" Part 1


The "True Business of the Precincts" Part 2


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Hillary has started and has the complete tools and ground work of her former boss:


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Sorry, I lost my internet.  Just got it back.

What's the latest.

We need to 'organize' down deep and into each and every single precinct

We need to 'organize' down deep and into each and every single precinct


We need to 'organize' down deep and into each and every single precinct

I don't see this happening, in fact, the opposite - we are top heavy strong (good) but

very light and not growing on the street or not organized on the street.  Please help push this

We reach out to the Agnostics and Atheists who usually vote Democrat out of ignorance. They, no matter what they choose to believe, have had the same rights as anyone, and yet seem to want to dissolve them by supporting ignorant Democrats. We kept our rights by insisting support of them by our Constitution. Just as Ronald Reagan told in many speeches and Democrats listened and respected him! People need to know why we have kept our freedoms and few have little idea! We have the most corrupt education system in the entire world in modern times.

Obama goes to apologize in Mexico? We bought the land from them after winning the war! Later we even forgave a 50 million debt they had borrowed. America has no reason to apologize to any! But with corrupt and Communist supporting faults and bad History, we see the results and it is at the poles!

Thanks, Daniel, good idea.  Yes, we need to start early. 

So, get connected to your local group, show up, keep pushing.  I just sent you a friend message - start collecting friends and blast your blogs or forum postings out to your friends if you want feedback. 

Otherwise, unless Dee or another administrator picks up your posting, it will not be seen by many others. 


Good idea

It's a high stake poker game! Although difficult to out guess the Demos,  it is possible. The Libs are desperate and crafty but ingenuity will prevail. Uh Rah!

Our nation has been duped and so many Democrat voters are Agnostic and Atheists. We need to show that our freedoms, they have and have had! It is because the Fathers of our Nation insisted on no government authority over our born in America freedoms as Americans! If you are an Atheist or an Agnostic, you have the same freedoms. Why would these vote to have them removed? It has to be ignorance!

Count me in. The goal has to be to get these GOP RINOs out of office  and replaced with Tea Party thinking people.

Then let us work on the ignorant.. I mean those that are Agnostic or Atheist. They always had, their families have had the freedoms that Democrats are trying to remove! We know Obama and even his wife hate America and that is basic!

Everyone has some good ideas! However do you remember what the Tea Party was able to do in 2010? Since then the Tea Party has dropped off the map. It is wonderful to have LOCAL groups and attended parties and fund raisers in your own district. The problem is: Read my lips: "Washington D.C." When (1) million plus angry voters show up in D.C., well that gets noticed. And getting the Tea Party message is only going to make a difference where the morons are who are ruining this country.  Not main street, not Wall Street, but 1600 Pennsylvania Ave just to name ONE place.  Then lets talk about the Capitol!  And not the Capitol Bar and Grill. When Beck showed up with thousands of Tea Party activist and conservative candidate's it got noticed. The Tea Party dropped the ball in 2012. Where was the demonstrations? Where were the banners and flags? Where were the angry voters opposing the disaster in the White House? All the articles from the lame stream press claimed the "The Tea Party is Dead" and no long effective! Well, guess what, everyone sat home on their collective asses and Obozo wins with more cell phones and unemployment bennies and more corruption and fraud than in the roaring 20's. Capone wasn't even this bad. Look at Rubio? Everyone was gun ho for Rubio. Where is he now, or the rest of the RHINOS that the low information voters voted back in.  So to turn things around in 2014, it is all going to happen in "Washington, D. C." NOT hometown U.S.A.

I'm sorry, I very much disagree.  It has to happen 'first' in hometown USA or it never happens in Washington D.C.  It's difficult enough to make small steps in the street than to attempt large steps to Washington D.C. but develop the ground game and do it now, then we can later all move into Washington D.C.

I agree Robert... we don't have the time to build from the bottom up... this country is in crisis now and we can't wait for three to four election cycles (6-8yrs) to have an impact.




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