Steven Rattner: ‘We Need Death Panels’; Will PolitiFact Reverse ‘Lie Of The Year’ Tag On Palin?

From NewsBusters:

For those who want the short answer to the question in this post’s title, the answer is almost definitely “no.” But in a New York Times op-ed piece in mid-September, former Obama “car czar” Steven Rattner effectively said that the so-called “fact-check” site known as PolitiFact should make amends to former Alaska Governor and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

In December 2009, PolitiFact’s Angie Drobnic Holan outrageously characterized the following statement made by Palin in an August 2009 Facebook post as its “Lie of the Year” (bold is mine):

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.

What follows are several paragraphs from Rattner’s Times September 16 op-ed. Rattner understates the real-world power of ObamaCare’s Independent Advisory Board, which makes his citation of England’s version of death panels as something worthy of imitation a de facto admission (to the point where it doesn’t matter whether he himself admits it) that Palin is right about ObamaCare as it was proposed (at the time of her Facebook post) and ultimately enacted (bolds are mine):

WE need death panels.

Well, maybe not death panels, exactly, but unless we start allocating health care resources more prudently — rationing, by its proper name — the exploding cost of Medicare will swamp the federal budget.

But in the pantheon of toxic issues — the famous “third rails” of American politics — none stands taller than overtly acknowledging that elderly Americans are not entitled to every conceivable medical procedure or pharmaceutical.

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What is good for the goose! So to speak!

Well excuse me, my sister just got word that after Jan.1,2013 she is not going to be covered for cancer because of her age 74, so I hope this will wake up the older masses OBAMACARE SUCKS. I'm 69 so I've got about 4.5 years yet to go providing they don't change things in 2014.

Sarah Palin was correct when she said DEATH PANELS and all the media and democrats laughed at her and made fun of what she said. Well it's true, when the won't cover you because of age it is a death sentence, screw you Obama and Pelosi and Reid and all those other Democrats that LIED to the people and voted obamacare thru.

Are you serious?  Have you seen the report that she will no longer be covered?  I market the medicare advantage plan and have see nothing about that fact.


You market the advantage program then why am I being notified that my Advantage plan is no longer available after December 2012.  Another little item seniors should be aware of.  My costs jumps about 178 per month.  Thats the almost 2400 increase for all seniors who have to take medigap or supplemental ins instead of the advantage programs!

All liberals are liars. 

You speak Divine Truth.

Everyone that voted for the, AFFORDABLE CARE ACT,what a miss named bill, they always do that. should be put on it with the same rules as the rest of us. Then let them laugh at the death panels. Let the rest of us out. Those politicians need to be punished for voting for bills they did not read or understand. Those responsible for authoring this evil piece of legislation should spend prison time. The tea party should ratchet up the pressure on all politicians so they will not even dare not do away with this monstrosity. NO MORE TALK ONLY ACTION.   

Get orepared..he is on a down hill slide to the oval office unless a boulder falls on him.
Get prepared..

finally they are admitting to what we already knew...remember how they treated sarah palin, when she exposed this?? now if we can just have them admit to the coverup on fast and furious, the coverup on the murder of our american ambassador, the real cost of health care...the green energy payoffs, the muslim brotherhood support....


I think the first thing that Congress should have done was read the OBAMACARE bill. None of them ever gave it a second glance! They just followed along like sheep and signed it blindly! I've read a large portion of it and what I've seen and understand so far is that we as American citizens will no longer have a choice as to what doctor we can see, what treatments we can or cannot receive and (as rumor has it) according to the bill we will all eventually be subject to a RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) chip whether we want it or not. Obama is a tyrant who has no business being in politics, let alone a president. Give him time and he'll push for a Dictatorship! Say goodbye to our sovereignty, freedom, constitution, and everything else that makes our country the greatest one on the planet!!!!! Say hello to the new world order they have been talking about for years! One world government is not something I'm willing to tolerate. Obama's health garbage is just the beginning of the crap. It WILL get much worse!




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YIKES!!! Chelsea Clinton Emphatically States A Person With A Beard And A Penis Can ‘Absolutely’ Identify As A Woman

  • The one issue Hillary and Chelsea don’t appear to agree on entirely is transgender self-identification
  • In an interview with The Sunday Times, journalist Decca Aitkenhead asked the Clintons about transgender self-identification
  • Chelsea Clinton replied ‘yes’ emphatically when asked if someone with a beard and penis can ever be a woman
  • ‘It’s going to take a lot more time and effort to understand what it means to be defining yourself differently,’ Hillary said
  • Aitkenhead said Hillary became ‘uneasy’ when the question was asked while Chelsea shot a ‘furious stare’ at the journalist as her mother answered
  • Hillary added: ‘It’s a very big generational discussion, because this is not something I grew up with or ever saw’

(Daily Mail) – It may appear Hillary and Chelsea Clinton always see eye-to-eye, but in a recent interview one topic cracked the facade of the like-minded mother-daughter power duo.

The one issue Hillary and Chelsea don’t appear to agree on entirely is transgender self-identification.

In an interview with The Sunday Times, journalist Decca Aitkenhead asked the Clintons if someone with a beard and a penis can ever be a woman, to which Chelsea replied emphatically, ‘Yes.’

However, as Aitkenhead describes it, Hillary looked ‘uneasy’, and blamed generational gaps for being less accepting.

‘Errr. I’m just learning about this,’ Hillary responded. ‘It’s a very big generational discussion, because this is not something I grew up with or ever saw. It’s going to take a lot more time and effort to understand what it means to be defining yourself differently.’

The Clintons sat sown with Aitkenhead to promote the book they co-authored, The Book of Gutsy Women: Favorite Stories of Courage and Resilience.

The book features Danica Roem, the first trans woman elected to a U.S. state legislature.

According Aitkenhead’s account, she tells Hillary during the interview that many British feminists of Hillary’s generation have a problem with the idea that a ‘lesbian who doesn’t want to sleep with someone who has a penis is transphobic.’

Hillary nods in agreement, while Chelsea ‘stiffens and stares at me’, according to Aitkenhead.

The journalist then adds that many women of Hillary’s generation are uncomfortable with biological males sharing women’s bathrooms.

‘I would say that, absolutely,’ Hillary nods firmly. ‘Absolutely. Yes.’

That’s when Chelsea begins shooting a ‘furious stare’ at Aitkenhead, who points it out to her.

‘I’m a terrible actor’, Chelsea laughs.

Chelsea then says she is thrilled with the National Health Service’s decision to assign patients to single-sex wards according to the gender they identify as, instead of their biological make up.

‘How can you treat someone if you don’t recognize who they feel and know in their core they are?’ Chelsea says.

‘And I strongly support children being able to play on the sports teams that match their own gender identity,’ she adds. ‘I think we need to be doing everything we can to support kids in being whoever they know themselves to be and discovering who they are.’

At this point Hillary looks conflicted.

‘I think you’ve got to be sensitive to how difficult this is,’ Hillary says. ‘There are women who’d say [to a trans woman], ”You know what, you’ve never had the kind of life experiences that I’ve had. So I respect who you are, but don’t tell me you’re the same as me.” I hear that conversation all the time.’

Despite the clear tension in the room, the pair say they don’t argue about this topic.

But according to Aitkenhead, ‘I get the impression they don’t like to present anything less than a united front to the world.’


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