Romney: GOP needs a Republican Version of the Dream Act

[National Director, Dee]

from the article:

"He said the GOP will have to propose its own initiatives to win support from Hispanic voters, such as a Republican version of the Dream Act."

By SARA MURRAY

PALM BEACH, Fla.—Mitt Romney, speaking at a private fundraising event on Sunday, offered the first details of deductions he would eliminate or limit in order to offset the income tax cut he has proposed for all taxpayers.

Mr. Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, said he would eliminate or limit for high-earners the mortgage interest deduction for second homes, and likely would do the same for the state income tax deduction and state property tax deduction.

He also said he would look to the Department of Education and the Department of Housing and Urban Development for budget cuts.

Mr. Romney discussed his plans while speaking to high-dollar donors at a private estate. During the backyard event, which could be heard by reporters outside on a public sidewalk, Mr. Romney offered policy specifics he has yet to unveil on the campaign trail.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, shown last week, offered the first details Sunday of tax deductions he would eliminate.

Mr. Romney has pledged a 20% cut to income tax rates for taxpayers in all income brackets but has offered few details for how he would pay for the proposal. Mr. Romney also has vowed to bring federal spending under control, while offering few details on which programs he would cut.

President Barack Obama recently criticized Republicans on the point, saying they hadn't specified which programs they would pare back.

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If you would like to give Mitt your feedback, you can do so here:

http://www.mittromney.com/forms/other

[ineffablejeff]

And a big thank you to all you assclowns who helped Romney in the primaries.

[roger pecsok]

It's not over yet.

[George Miller]

We're not sure about that. Rubio and Jindal are definitely ineligible. Santorum never established his eligibility.  Romney was born in Detroit, but his father was born in Mexico. We don't know the father's citizenship on Mitt's birth date. It is complicated by the fact of a Mexican nationality act, passed to protect Mormons who emigrated due to persecution, It is Romney's responsibility to clear this up. In the meantime,m about a half dozen people are researching this.

Facts about natural born citizenship: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

[Kathleen S]

Is ORomney a natural born?

Anyone know?

[davidfarrar]

No. 

My source:

The Second Mexican Constitution, 1857;

Article 30: Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization:

A. Mexicans by birth are:

I. Todos los nacidos dentro ó fuera del territorio de la República, de padres mexicanos.
II. Los estrangeros que se naturalicen conforme á las leyes de la federación.
III. Los estrangeros que adquieran bienes raices en la República o tengan hijos
mexicanos, siempre que no manifiesten la resolución de conservar su nacionalidad.

Translation:

I. All those born within or outside the territory of the Republic, of Mexican parents.
II. The foreigners who become naturalized according to the laws of the federation.
III. The foreigners who acquire real estate in the Republic or have Mexicans, provided no express resolution to retain his nationality.

ex animo

davidfarrar

[Deborah J Strole]

Actually I've done my homework on this since I am a birther.  Romney's parents WERE born in a Mormon village in Mexico but they immigrated to the US and both became naturalized citizens BEFORE Mitt was born.

Rubio is a different story, his parents were not Naturalized US citizens at the time of his birth so he is not a Natural Born Citizen, and I am SICK and tired of the pundits pushing for a Rubio VP spot. 

Just a FYI, Attorney Orly Tiatz is in court today trying to win another lawsuit concerning the eligibility of Obama in front of a Circuit Court Judge who was appointed to hear the case by the Chief Justice of the Mississippi Supreme Court.  I tried every way I could to get Sheriff Joe Arpaio to take his Cold Case evidence there and be a witness for Orly Tiatz.  According to a phone call I had with her a couple of weeks ago, Arpaio and the Cold Case Team is only interested in selling books, not in getting their evidence in front of a Judge.  I won't know if any of the pressure of my dozens of emails to the Possee and others who might have influence did any good.  Her website is ground-zero in the battle.

[davidfarrar]

Response to Deborah J Strole:

Mitt Romney's mother (parent) was Lenore LaFount.  She was born in Logan, Utah, the daughter of Alma Luella (née Robison; 1882-1938) and Harold Arundel LaFount (1880-1952).

If you have a source for your claim that:

"(Mitt) Romney's parents WERE born in a Mormon village in Mexico but they immigrated to the US and both became naturalized citizens BEFORE Mitt was born."

I would love to see it, especially any naturalization documents relating to either George or Lenore Romney. 

ex animo

davidfarrar

[George Miller]

Charles Kerchner has researched this extensively and has quite a bit of info on George Romney's birth  and possible problems with natural born citizenship.  He and others claim George Romney was born in Mexico. Do you have info to the contrary?

A simple internet search reveals little disagreement with that conclusion.

Sampling of examples:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/mitt-romney-not-a-natural-born-citizen/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

[davidfarrar]

Yes, thank you. I have read it before. It's in my files.

Although I agree, obviously; with the right, honorable Pinckney G. McElwee's work in this regard; I am confronted with a dilemma in accepting it on a constitutional basis. He based his findings on English common law, and not Vattel.  It's the same problem I have with the Wong decision. It too -- that being the definition of a A2S1C4 nbC -- was based on English common law.

I would be more than happy to accept the assumption that English common law also supports Vattel's two citizen-parent rule, it's just that I know far too many learned lefties who swear the English common law is dispositive of Vattel and the two citizen-parent rule.

The problem here, of course, is that while the individual state charters were certainly drawn up under the English common law, after the American revolution, there was a deep resentment to forming the national government on the legal premise of the enemy you just defeated on the battlefield.   This feeling of enmity was so great in the minds of the delegates to the Constitutional Convention of 1789, that, as Marip Apuzzo recently pointed out in the NJ hearing:

"There is nothing in the Constitution or any Act of Congress which suggests that the English common law continued to have any effect on the national level. I have shown that in that connection, we adopted the definition of a “natural-born citizen” as provided by Emer de Vattel in his The Law of Nations."   ...and let me add my two cents here.. " to suggest otherwise would have been looked upon as treasonous during that time."...davidfarrar

 

What this means is that when the delegates to the convention inserted the phrase "natural born Citizen,"  into A2S1C4, they were using Vattel and not English common law.

But Mr. McElwee's conclusion is certainly correct, in my view: Both Obama and Romney are ineligible to take the oath of office of the presidency of the United States should they be chosen by the people.

ex animo

davidfarrar

[Deborah J Strole]

George Romney's birth and citizenship were taken up when he was considered for the POTUS; here David is Congressional evidence in great detail just for you:

http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/mitt-romney-s-fathe...

[davidfarrar]

I think the record is pretty clear, Miles Park Romney went to Mexico to avoid US polygamy laws and stayed outside of US jurisdiction for over five years, allowing his US citizenship to laps. 

ex animo

davidfarrar

[Pat McMahon]

do you really think it woulod help to give Mitt any feedback??? He is the elites choice, they drove all the good ones out that were truly conservatives. God help us