Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted announced an investigation has uncovered that hundreds of non-US citizens are registered to vote in the state, and dozens of them voted illegally.
According to a release from Husted, 385 people who are not citizens of the United States are registered to vote in Ohio. Out of those, 82 voted in at least one election in the last year.
Husted’s office says the 82 non-citizens who are registered to vote and cast ballots will be immediately referred to law enforcement for further investigation and possible prosecution.
“In light of the national discussion about illegal voting it is important to inform our discussions with facts. The fact is voter fraud happens, it is rare and when it happens, we hold people accountable,” Secretary Husted said.
19 of the 82 non-citizens voted in the central Ohio area. 14 of those were in Franklin County, 2 were in Delaware County and 1 each in Fairfield, Licking and Union Counties.
The 303 registered voters identified as non-citizens who have notcast a ballot will be sent letters both informing them that non-citizens are not eligible to vote and requesting that they cancel their registration. A follow-up letter will be sent to any individuals that still remain on the rolls after 30 days. Any non-citizens identified that remain on the rolls after being contacted twice will then be referred to law enforcement, according to Husted.
Possible prosecution... what? They investigate, find the laws broken... and then make the statement they were referred to local prosecutors for possible prosecution.
A US Pass Port is a National ID Card... They have been in use for hundreds of years and have not proven to be draconian. I suggest that we issue them to all US Citizens for FREE... and do it as quickly as possible.
What could possibly be wrong with issuing a US Pass Port to all US Citizens? Oops, that would lead to a quick way to ID illegal aliens in our midst ... no US Pass Port in possession or on record... deport immediately.
No US Pass Port ... no voting. We could add an electronic code for the proper voter registration location ... in the data base for the Pass Port... too ensure that the holder votes only once and at the proper location.
The costs for a pass port would be insignificant when compared to the savings accrued thru having a positive system to stop various forms of fraud ... welfare, food stamps, voting , etc. Any system of ID has a cost... Pass Ports however would be less as the system is already in place... and would only require expansion.
"...no US Passport in possession or on record... deport immediately."
With that, though, you're getting 'WAY too close to "Papers, please! We must see your papers!" I agree with the controls on voting, but I must take exception to having to carry some sort of "official" identification at all times.
If a policeman asks me who I am, I might or might not tell him (depending upon the circumstances -- I used to be a cop, so I know when to keep my mouth shut!); but, if I do, it is incumbent upon him to determine if I am telling the truth. He has no "right" ("power") in most cases to make me prove what I say.
One of the exceptions is when I am driving a motor vehicle, although I don't really agree with that. A century-and-a-half ago, no one was required to carry a license to ride a horse; why did we "roll over" on needing a license to drive an automobile? A great deal more expertise and skill is required to use a horse for everyday transportation than to drive a car. Furthermore, proportionally, at least as many people died or were injured in horse accidents as are in automobile accidents. Why, then, do we require a license to drive an automobile? In order to make it easier for Big Brother to keep an eye on us -- that's why.
I agree that one must show some evidence of citizenship in order to vote, and I really liked the idea of coloring the thumb purple when voting [in Iraq] to prevent multiple votes from one person. This was simple, cheap, effective, and hard to evade. Even if we cannot force voters to prove citizenship, this simple procedure would eliminate over half of America's election fraud problem.
I disagree... so, your against pass ports? You are aware that when a Law Enforcement Officer asks for ID... that is the same thing as asking for Papers... papers please?
If one refuse to provide ID when asked by LE and you are driving... What do you think will happen... no drivers license, no proof you own the vehicle... come on, you were a LE officer... is an arrest possible? You bet. So, are we required to show ID no... but what can happen if we don't? There are many ways to end up going down town if you refuse to show ID... to a law enforcement officer. We are a police state whether we like it or not. Paper please... ID please?
American's are required to show papers... ID for many reasons... not the least of which is to enter the country. The only difference, between a totalitarian country and the US, is that you can't be arrested for not having ID... unless there is some other infraction or probable cause... like you can't speak English... you may just be an illegal alien. Don't try to reenter the US without a Pass Port... see what happens. Papers please...oops I don't have any... what's next?
Sometimes I wonder how we manage to survive as a nation, as long as we have?
No, but I am certain that passports should not be required for travel -- or existence -- within a nation. Further, passports are a relatively new invention; for most of history, people could travel among nations with very few restrictions.
There are certain things we do which require licenses (although I'm not sure that this is a good idea, either!), and a policeman is within the law in asking for identification/license when one is performing those things, but we should be free to go about our [other] business without fear of being harassed for so doing.
As far as voting, I'm altogether with you in thinking that some sort of identification should be required, along with a system of preventing multiple votes form one individual. If anything should be closely regulated, it is the selection of those who would be our leaders.
I, too, wonder how we have survived as a nation, especially over the past century. We did OK until the "progressives" took over the reins in D.C., but they have done much damage to what was, once upon a time, the United States of America.
May God help us.
No but what... Pass Ports are an excellent vehicle to prove citizenship... they are biometric ID's and a computer network and data base already exist... too, manage them as a National ID.
In fact, some would call a Pass Port a National ID. Oops... to late to argue against national ID's we have had one for over 100 yrs... they are called Pass Ports.
Passports are but a symptom of the illness. Can you imagine what our great-grandfathers would have said if the sheriff came to their homes and told them that they would have to have some sort of state-issued card -- which would cost them money -- in order to ride their horses legally? And that they would be fined and/or imprisoned if they continued riding their horses without that card?
How about if "the authorities" told Washington, Franklin, and Madison that they had to cough up over a hundred dollars to get a small booklet from the government in order to travel to a foreign country?
We are a long way from what The Founders envisioned.
Yes, but we need to ID those who are here illegally and those who are voting illegally... other uses can follow such as ID for welfare benefits, food stamps etc.
And... one's pass port should be free or issued for a very minimum charge... say $10.00 paid to a contractor for their work in issuing the pass port.
if they are here illegal why they need an ID?