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“.. Democrats, partly funded by liberal billionaire George Soros, are pushing laws in each state legislature that would force the state's electors to vote for the winner of the national popular vote.
The law has already passed in nine states, representing 135 electoral votes. It has passed one house in another 10 states, representing 107 electoral votes. That's a total of 242 electoral votes.
When the number hits 270, a majority of the Electoral College, that will effectively amend the Constitution, Morris writes…”.
"If the popular vote is all that matters, won’t many blue states bulk up their popular vote totals by letting non-citizens vote?" he said. Plus, a Republican will never be President again!
And, it has already passed one house in: Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Oregon. These states, plus New York represent 107 votes. Combined with the others they are up to 242 votes . They need 270.
Who is pushing this?
All of those ratifying voted for Obama as did eight of the 10 one-house states.
The Movement is funded, in part, by the Center for Voting and Democracy, a George Soros-funded election group..."
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We need to stop this NOW !
Where is MSM on this???? Oh , that's right, OUR WATCHDOGS OF FREEDOM ARE THE DOCILE LAPDOGS OF OBAMA AND SOROS !!! And they ( THE DEMS.) had so much to say about the KOCH BROS. EH HARRY ? May 16 can't come fast enough !!!!!!
The lame-stream, drive by media? Oh, they're busy watching Homo erectus specimens "hoop in yo eye," and such. May 16th--the beginning of a long hot summer, or of REBIRTH, RENEWAL, & REDEMPTION.
Happy Easter, the time of Atonement.
Yes, Barry, and I do not think the erectus part is speaking of the whole person with the morals of our idiot fools in our Liberal media! We all note that they say nothing about a male involved in an unwanted pregnancy. But this is the same with the radical feminists!
If Soros is an American, he could be charged with treason. If he is not, how can he grab our freedoms just by finance? Well, admittedly, so could Obama, Reid, and many others in the Marxist/Liberal camp! They are full blown anti-American terrorists in absolute!
AND THERE WE HAVE IT, THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF OUR "CONSTITUTIONAL" AMERICA BY THE "POPULAR VOTE!" THE NEXT STEP IS "MARTIAL LAW," FILLING THE FEMA CAMPS ( AND GAS CHAMBERS) WITH ALL PATRIOTIC RESISTERS, ESTABLISHING A TOTAL MUSLIM/COMMUNIST "DICTATORSHIP" THAT WILL END ALL FREE ELECTIONS! OH, YOU CHIDE, THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IN AMERICA!!! WELL I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU BUCKY, JUST COUNT THE "PROGRESSIVE SOCIALIST" STATES ALL FALLING IN LINE, WHILE A SUBMISSIVE CRIMINAL CONSPIRING "COMMUNIST" CONGRESS IS AIDING THE PROCESS! MY QUESTION IS: WHAT THE HELL ARE WE FREEDOM LOVING PATRIOTS GOING TO DO ABOUT IT ?????
There are a few of us that know this is a Marxist/Muslim conspiracy. Marxism needs radical Muslims to take over a free society. There is also a connection with the CIA and the International MOB in this as a dead reporter has told us. If we remember, he met with some who he thought he could trust. Apparently one of them got paid big to lace his drink or food with Polonium and he died in two weeks. The International MOB had several meetings with Putin and this is what he told us. He, of course, was murdered, dying in an English hospital.
If any have questions whether Marxism is evil or against freedom we should of noted this with the lies about our veterans during the Nam War! I happen to be watching "Missing in Action III", and that movie shows more truth than any Liberal media did. We all felt that our media had become traitors against America and that was back then! We see what they support now and do not give them excuse suggesting ignorance. They are in support of the "One Leader Takeover!" We should note that a Muslim Nation, Pakistan said they would welcome Obama as world leader!!! Yes, all media reported it. Now we hear his wife may be male? It well could be because it is spoke of in the Bible, he will not desire women!
I hope all the militia groups are preparing for what's coming!
I hope that the militia has considered the ramifications of such a movement. If they don't success our country is doomed. As the progressive left will turn the situation in their favor. In fact I am sure they have a counter insurgency plan to do just that.
Surprise and speed, timing is everything. What will happen is natural and biological, we must have faith.
In any military operation, you are certainly correct. But you usually don't warn the enemy you are coming do you? I have faith...this MAY be a mistake.
Come on now, lets see a show of hands as to who is totally surprised? And all the "peace niks" were hoping for "fair, open, honest" elections. Yeah, when elephants fly!!! How stupid can the American people be? I never was one that though the electoral college was the right thing to do, but rigged elections, I have no use for. Will this change the mood of the OAS in May? Still thinking of talking nice and pretty to these idiots is the answer? Or do you prefer bending over and grabbing your ankles more suitable? Either way WE lose!!! Cannot wait to see what happens next. Lets see. No more honest elections, a dictator of a president that prefers martial law, higher taxes, more entitlements (redistribution of others wealth), more regulations, more corruption, more Constitution shredding, more lame weak kneed Republican responses, total war on Christianity, no more liberty and freedoms, more out of control government departments, more land stealing, more illegals than ever before, less jobs, no recovery in the economy, and lots of useless global warming expenses, and no one will be happy till the Bill of Rights is shredded as well as the Declaration, Lost most of the first, the regime is working hard on the second, and as for the fourth, well look to Nevada for violations of the Bill of Rights, by the lets make them the Bill of Wrongs crowd. Want to take this opportunity to thank all the brainless morons who voted for this disaster in the first place.
Robert, please explain your position on the electoral college. It is what balances out the population power of New York and California against sparsely settled middle America. From Wikipedia: Critics argue that the Electoral College is inherently undemocratic and gives swing states disproportionate influence in electing the President and Vice President. The Electoral College gives a numeric advantage in the election of the president to the smaller states, as the minimum number of electors for the small states is three compared to one for the election of representatives. On the other hand, the winner-take-all method of voting favors the larger states. On four occasions, most recently in 2000, the Electoral College system has resulted in the election of a candidate who did not receive the most popular votes in the election.[
In Defense of the Electoral College
By John Samples
Critics have long derided the Electoral College as a fusty relic of a bygone era, an unnecessary institution that one day might undermine democracy by electing a minority president. That day has arrived, assuming Gov. Bush wins the Florida recount as seems likely.
The fact that Bush is poised to become president without a plurality of the vote contravenes neither the letter nor the spirit of the Constitution. The wording of our basic law is clear: The winner in the Electoral College takes office as president. But what of the spirit of our institutions? Are we not a democracy that honors the will of the people? The very question indicates a misunderstanding of our Constitution.
James Madison’s famous Federalist No. 10 makes clear that the Founders fashioned a republic, not a pure democracy. To be sure, they knew that the consent of the governed was the ultimate basis of government, but the Founders denied that such consent could be reduced to simple majority or plurality rule. In fact, nothing could be more alien to the spirit of American constitutionalism than equating democracy will the direct, unrefined will of the people.
Recall the ways our constitution puts limits on any unchecked power, including the arbitrary will of the people. Power at the national level is divided among the three branches, each reflecting a different constituency. Power is divided yet again between the national government and the states. Madison noted that these twofold divisions — the separation of powers and federalism — provided a “double security” for the rights of the people.
What about the democratic principle of one person, one vote? Isn’t that principle essential to our form of government? The Founders’ handiwork says otherwise. Neither the Senate, nor the Supreme Court, nor the president is elected on the basis of one person, one vote. That’s why a state like Montana, with 883,000 residents, gets the same number of Senators as California, with 33 million people. Consistency would require that if we abolish the Electoral College, we rid ourselves of the Senate as well. Are we ready to do that?
The filtering of the popular will through the Electoral College is an affirmation, rather than a betrayal, of the American republic. Doing away with the Electoral College would breach our fidelity to the spirit of the Constitution, a document expressly written to thwart the excesses of majoritarianism. Nonetheless, such fidelity will strike some as blind adherence to the past. For those skeptics, I would point out two other advantages the Electoral College offers.
First, we must keep in mind the likely effects of direct popular election of the president. We would probably see elections dominated by the most populous regions of the country or by several large metropolitan areas. In the 2000 election, for example, Vice President Gore could have put together a plurality or majority in the Northeast, parts of the Midwest, and California.
The victims in such elections would be those regions too sparsely populated to merit the attention of presidential candidates. Pure democrats would hardly regret that diminished status, but I wonder if a large and diverse nation should write off whole parts of its territory. We should keep in mind the regional conflicts that have plagued large and diverse nations like India, China, and Russia. The Electoral College is a good antidote to the poison of regionalism because it forces presidential candidates to seek support throughout the nation. By making sure no state will be left behind, it provides a measure of coherence to our nation.
Second, the Electoral College makes sure that the states count in presidential elections. As such, it is an important part of our federalist system — a system worth preserving. Historically, federalism is central to our grand constitutional effort to restrain power, but even in our own time we have found that devolving power to the states leads to important policy innovations (welfare reform).
If the Founders had wished to create a pure democracy, they would have done so. Those who now wish to do away with the Electoral College are welcome to amend the Constitution, but if they succeed, they will be taking America further away from its roots as a constitutional republic.