How many here think we should have an adversarial relationship with Russia? How many here think we should have gotten involved in Iraq and Afghanistan? How many believe after over 60 years we still should have thousands of troops on the 38th in Korea? How many here think we should have American troops garrisoned in over 130 foreign nations? How many here think we should have spent 5 BILLION DOLLARS to foment the coup in Ukraine and replace the pro Russian government with a pro western anti Russian one?
The United States spends 5 times as much on our military as the next largest nations military expenditures, does that make sense to you?
I love our Navy but do we really need to have 12 Nuclear powered Air Craft Carriers to protect the USA at home?
Remember President Eisenhower's farewell address, and his warning about the Military Industrial complex? the original speech called that group "The Congressional Military Industrial complex" for a good reason.
IF our nation is to survive we must change our ways in several ways, and the first is to stop spending money we do not have [ cut government spending ] the second is to return to a foreign policy that is like the one we had before WWI, avoid entanglement in foreign wars and mind our own business is a good start.
The last is a sound money policy where the banks can not manipulate the currency for their profits at our expense [ perhaps a return to a gold backed currency?
The article smacks of tunnel vision, looking only at things from a single point of view.
1, The article completely neglects to address threats. Adversarial relationships are a two way street.
2. The article completely neglects any discussion of consequences. What are the likely outcomes of doing any of the proposed actions? We went into Afghanistan because Mullah Omar refused to surrender Bin Laden, not because we wanted to paly in a sandbox. Where might we be if we had not gone into Iraq? By now, Saddam Hussein would surely have nuclear weapons, and might well have already used them.
3. The article discusses costs, but it does not address vulnerabilities. It costs money to plug up holes.
4. Wars take two to tango. If we return to isolationism, what are the guarantees that other countries will leave us alone? The answer is there are NONE!. Remember Pearl Harbor! Remember 9-11! Only 4 days after marking 14 years since 9-11 it looks like it has been forgotten. It makes no difference what kind of relationship we want with Russia, China, Iran, etc., if any or all of them want an adversarial relationship with us.
5. Obama has just handed nuclear weapons to Iran on a uranium platter. ICBMs travel pretty fast and there are other ways to attack with nukes. Are we supposed to hide our heads in the sand and pretend it won't happen? Remember Pearl Harbor! Remember 9-11! Remember how badly we were prepared for WWII, for Korea, for the Mid-East. when the Korean war broke out Obama has made us weaker and weaker, too much wealth redistribution and too few people working to generate wealth. The threats don't go away because we have wasted so much on frivolous pursuits.
6. 12 nuclear powered carriers is nothing, given the size of the oceans and time to transverse them. Carriers require vast amounts of support to keep them where they need to be. The threats are not only to the homeland, and we should want to keep them as far away as possible. We did not do that when Clinton was in office and it resulted in 9-11. There is an old military axiom: Love the peace, but be prepared for war.
We need to increase the size of our military after Tyrant Obama the Liar's reign. We need to deal with Iran and do what ever it takes to stop them from getting nuclear weapons. We need to deal with Russia and stop them from occupying Ukraine. We need to do something about China and stop their aggression. We need to deal with Al Qaeda and all the terrorists that Obama has helped. This is going to require a lot stronger military.
Cut the 25% increase in discretionary spending that Obama added. Stop giving government benefits to illegals. Shut down the Education Dept. Shut down most of the Energy Dept. Shut down the EPA, End all forms of welfare for able bodied people and Faux disabled. This will more than pay for our increased military spending.
War is Stupid, Horrific, Gruesome, Tragic, Wasteful, Idiotic, Madness. War IS. It exists. And not by Our doing.
Deal with it.
We Are The Tea Party - Fifteen Core Beliefs: 3. "A strong military is ESSENTIAL."
"We stand by the Constitution as inherently conservative." The Constitution restricts the Federal Government to two things: 1. Foreign Affairs which includes Defense 2. Commerce BETWEEN States (not InTRAstate)
When WE joined the Tea Party, it was mandatory upon registration that we affirm our belief in 3 statements. I cannot find those statements anywhere else on the web site.
To advocate 'Isolationism' directly supports the Agenda, Intention, Philosophy and Foreign Policy of Barack Obama and his entire Administration.
If you cannot affirm the original 3 statements and/or you are an Isolationist, you do not belong in The Tea Party.
Like in day's WAY BEFORE the VIKING CONQUESTS mankind has been fighting WARS against each OTHER. History is usually written by the VICTORS !!!!
Problem is, that the USA had a pretty good record winning our wars until KOREA (Communists) screwed up our winning streak ! Vietnam (Communists) soon after , REALLY put us in a slump. But it was more the POLITICIANS at home who were more congenial with the Communists and wouldn't allow the American Military the HONOR of VICTORY against the Commie bastards.
Now in the Middle East , American Military under the direction of the pro -Communist Obama Administration, again wants America to waste our HUMAN TREASURE and "Throw the Fight" just to make us look HUMBLE before the world.
Personally I think we should let our Military gear up and begin the next War right here in Washington DC and "Lock Up" every Politician and Lobbyist then go back to the Middle East, without any "RULES OF ENGAGEMENT" and SWEEP THE DESERTS CLEAN !!! We can then go back to VIETNAM and DRUB The COMMUNISTS there, and settle any other ongoing problems we have around the world. BUT WE SHALL WIN EVERY WAR this time !!!!
Send notices to the USSR and CHINA that we will EMPTY our Nuclear SILOS and TRIDENTS on them if they so much "Rattle ONE SABER !!!! Israel can take whatever territory they want and make the Hazbullah, Hamas and all the Terrorists into "FISH" as the JEWS drive them ALL into the Mediteranean SEA !!!! (No Life preservers) !!!!
Nuff said !!!
FBI has likely found that Hillary is Guilty of a major crime and My bet is that Obama is also tied to it. This is so big that the FBI will not divulge any form of ongoing investigation of Hillaries email. Hillary is TOAST as is Obama and when they the FBI have it all together, and the case is solid, Obama will step down from the White House to avoid prosecution and Hillary will do some time!
Your words to GOD's ears, Stephen...............................
But I hate to burst your bubble. The corruption runs VERY Deep in Washington, and if you think for one minute the AMERICAN PEOPLE will come out on top of this, you are sadly mistaken. DEALS are already in the MIX and the best you are going to see will be Hillary dropping out of the campaign, no charges filed, and Obama flies off into the sunset in January 2016.
Our next President (whomever that should be) will immediately be subject to the most CRITICAL OBSERVATION by EVERY POLITICIAN in Congress and every JOURNALIST in the nation. GOD HELP HIM/HER !!!!!
EVEN IF the fbi/doj does bring charges against Clinton &/or Obama they WILL Skate on ALL charges
that is just the way Washington D. C. works
(I do not intend to write a Book. This is as short as necessary.)
The current strategy of the U.S. and The West to prevent World War III is ‘Balance Of Power’ (18th Century)
Sept., 1964, Basic Training: “It is the Mission of the U.S. Military to prevent War.” (Specifically World War III) “If war begins, we have failed our Mission. It then becomes the primary Mission of the U.S. Military to Restore The Peace.” (Not to obliterate the enemy.)
I am appalled but not surprised nor shocked that men with brass on their shoulders had no idea what they were doing - Strategically. And have not bothered to educate themselves over the past 43 years. Watson wanted to use Tactical Nuclear Weapons and bomb Hanoi. But WE are the ‘Warhawks’.
“Bomb them into the Stone Age !” “We're already in the Stone Age.” - Gen. Giap
In war, you don’t want to obliterate your enemy‘s country. You want to disable his army. Sun Tsu, 600 BCE
You paralyze the enemy by “attriting” 10% of his force - his major equipment. Norman Swartzkopf
We learn lessons from ‘Stonewall’ Jackson, U.S. Grant, William T. Sherman (who learned from Grant), and George Smith Patton (who learned from all of them). As did Norman Swartzkopf - plus the incredibly dumb tactics and 'attrition' strategy of Viet Nam.
We won in Korea. The aggressor suspended the war with absolutely no gain.
We won in Viet Nam in 1972 with the ‘Paris Peace Accords’. The Democrats gave Viet Nam away in 1975 by refusing to fund operations there - including bombing and destroying N.V.A. armor columns proceeding south on the highway into South Viet Nam in 1975.
Korea and Viet Nam were Campaigns in ‘The Cold War’. Which we won.
Recall firstly that ¾ of our Military was disposed against the Greater Threat - The Soviet Union in Europe and was under-strengthen at that. We could have seized Hanoi in six weeks, and had plans to do so. North Viet Nam was never the Problem.
In 1950, Korea, Mao demonstrated he would commit his armies if ‘threatened’. That is why we could not expand the War.
I joined the Army Security Agency( 4 years), the largest military branch of N.S.A., two weeks after the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, Sept. 1, 1964. We had 25,000 ’advisors’ (including the A.S.A.) in Viet Nam. The Marines landed in Viet Nam March 8, 1965. I arrived in Japan May, 1965. We had 75,000 men in Viet Nam, 125,000 by years end. Two years later when I left Japan, we had 325,000 in Viet Nam. The number peaked at 525,000.
Mao Tse Tung had an army of 7 million and a ready reserve of 10 million. 2 million were poised in southern China north of North Viet Nam/Laos. 1 million poised on the northern border of North Korea. If Mao gave the Order, his armies would, simultaneously sweep into both South Korea and South Viet Nam. We had 178,000 men in a Defensive Line along the 38th Parallel in Korea and with our allies, we could have stemmed an attack by 1 million Chinese. But what if re-enforced by 2 million Ready Reserves ?
South Viet Nam was not the same situation. We had half-million men (max) in dispersed Fortified Positions. 2 Million Chinese and 3 Million of their Ready Reserve would have - simultaneously with Korea - swept down and annihilated those Positions ‘In Detail’. The only option of the president would have been Tactical Nuclear Weapons. And what were the Soviets going to do in the meantime ?
World War III
There were Chinese ‘Volunteer’ units in combat in South Viet Nam. 4000 uniformed Chinese soldiers were killed during the bombings of Hanoi and Haiphong. (Mostly Anti-Aircraft units.)
In league with my colleagues, 4 ’shifts’ (6 per shift) we monitored the communications between Mao Tse Tung and his 7 Army Group Commanders. We would have recovered his ’Order’. It had to be in the hands of the president in 10 minutes. Within one year, at 20-years-old, I was the Lead Operator. At 6’ tall, I was in perfect shape and 155 lbs.when I arrived in Japan in 1965. With never more than 72 hours off, I left Japan two years later weighing 125 lbs. Receiving the lion’s share of credit for 5 significant intelligence events, my (exclusive) Certificate of Achievement reads: “an important contribution to the NATIONAL intelligence effort” and “he was the example for the rest of the men in his section to follow”.
It is the Mission of the ‘Grunts’ in the field and the ‘Bomb Jockys’ in the air to close with the Enemy and Kill him. That’s all they ‘need to know’. That’s all their Superiors Motivate them to do. We honor their efforts and always did. WE were tasked with saving the lives of as many of them as we could.
America became the most properous country in the world through trade by sea. Americans designed the 'Clipper' ship, the fastest sailing ship ever. John Dahlgren was an American Naval officer who founded our Navy's Ordinance Department. Dahlgren designed a cast-iron muzzle-loading cannon with vastly increased range and accuracy - the Dahlgren gun. By 1856, it was the standard gun on American warships. No other countries ships - including England's - could even hope to confront an American warship for the next 40 years. We had a Civil War. But not a war with another country.
Superior Technology IS the reason for American Military Supremacy. And that is the result of Private Industry Research & Development. Again it is the Capitalist System that produces this superior technology - and scares away would be Aggressors. Which means Peace.
How much did you pay in Car Insurance last year ? Insurance that you will probably (hopefully) never use.