Californians could face ‘double taxation’ with state, federal carbon taxes

Michael Bastasch

Last month, environmentalists cheered as California launched a cap-and-trade program, but talks of a federal carbon tax raised concerns about double taxation.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that while the chances of a federal tax on carbon emissions being adopted are still remote, California state officials are worried enough to have started discussing the prospect.

“We are aware that it is a possibility, and we have been considering it as of late,” said California Air Resources Board spokesman Stanley Young. “We want to make sure that California companies continue to transition into the program without any sort of disadvantage.”

“We promote the possibility of the federal government addressing climate change,” he said. “And on our part, we’re prepared to align our program in a way that allows California to move forward.”

One potential solution would be for Congress to exempt California companies that already participate in the state cap-and-trade program from a carbon tax. California officials have also indicated they could tweak their system to harmonize it with the possible federal tax.

“You either have one or the other — you don’t have them both,” said climate economist Jasmin Ansar with the Union of Concerned Scientists, an environmental group. “You’d have the danger of, in effect, double taxation.”


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What will we all do when o says we must bail out California? Could that be the moment to start screaming NO?

Wanna peek into the future and see what America will look like in 4 years with Obama as president? Look at Cali

No look at Arabia and who runs that country or Egypt now for that is what Obama is looking for...

Californians are already being double taxed.  We have allowed the government to be an entity of its own rather than a voice of the people.  California governments are feeding them selves and not working for the people.  We have to face that fact.  The only way out of this mess is to elect those who desire to serve the public.  Right now our elected officials have made a career of their position and work only to protect their status.  Our founders worked hard to create a country that is governed by the people, for the people, and of the people.  The voters have  turned this upside down putting the government in a position to rule us as in days of old.  The land and everything on it including the people is owned by the government. 

Let California go down the tubes they think they are setting examples for the rest. The only thing they are setting is HOW LOW THEIR IQ REALY IS.  California can go to hell that is straight to hell BURN ass -----

 

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A Chinese auto company having just won the auction for bankrupt A123 Systems, one of Barack Obama’s car battery darlings that received a $249 million grant from the Obama government further illustrates why the White House playing capital investor with taxpayer funds investor is a very bad idea.

When Obama took office in January 2009, five million “green” jobs were promised, yet nowhere near that number have been created. The companies Obama invests in keep failing because Americans do not want to purchase inefficient energy at inflated prices.

Furthermore, eighty percent of the green loans, loan guarantees, and grants given out by Department of Energy went to Obama campaign backers:

•SunPower, after receiving $1.5 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

•First Solar, after receiving $1.46 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

•Solyndra, after receiving $535 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•Ener1, after receiving $118.5 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•Evergreen Solar, after receiving millions of dollars from the state of Massachusetts, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•SpectraWatt, backed by Intel and Goldman Sachs, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•Beacon Power, after receiving $43 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•Abound Solar, after receiving $400 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•Amonix, after receiving $5.9 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•Babcock & Brown (an Australian company), after receiving $178 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•Solar Trust for America, after receiving a $2.1-billion loan guarantee from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

•Nevada Geothermal, after receiving $98.5 million from DOE, warns of potential defaults in new SEC filings.

“progressives” continue to promote global warming, or to use the most recent and now more popular vernacular: climate change.  The narrative is that planet earth is experiencing a warming climate due primarily to the emission of man-made ”greenhouse gases”.  The most often and specifically referenced gas is carbon dioxide.

According to Matt Rosenberg at Atmosphere Composition, the earth’s atmosphere is composed primarily of Nitrogen and Oxygen. Together, the two comprise about 99% of the gas in the atmosphere. Here’s a listing of the key components of the atmosphere:

Nitrogen – 78.084%

Oxygen – 20.95%

Argon – 0.934%

Carbon Dioxide – 0.036%

Neon – 0.0018%

Helium – 0.0005%

Methane – 0.00017%

Hydrogen – 0.00005%

Nitrous Oxide – 0.00003%

Ozone – 0.000004%

In addition, water vapor is variable but typically makes up about 1-4% of the atmosphere.

“progressives” would have the world’s population believe that fluctuations in a trace element of earth’s atmosphere (0.036%) caused by the burning of fossil fuels like petroleum and coal has resulted in such catastrophic events as the melting of earth’s polar ice caps and glaciers.  They contend this will lead to the flooding of coastal areas and the extinction of species.

A nation of over 300 million people, which currently derives less than 5 percent of its energy from “alternatives” cannot expect to put an immediate end to the use of fossil fuels.  This could quite possibly bring the nation’s ailing economy to a grinding halt, resulting in a massive loss of business, leading to a dramatic decrease in already insufficient tax revenue and an extremely painful increase in unemployment.

Is putting an end to the use of petroleum worth the accompanying reduction in the living standards and the overall prosperity of a nation?  Is it worth the resulting ballooning of America’s national debt and further devaluation of its currency?

“progressives” feel an ongoing, compulsive need to force America to accept their “green energy solution”. Proposals made by the current administration and fellow “progressives” indicate a desire to achieve this end at all costs come what may.  Stiffer regulations on auto emissions and mileage, EPA regulations on energy providers, resistance to development of domestic natural resources, deficit government spending on inefficient and uncompetitive solar, wind, tide and bio-fuel technology dominate the political landscape.

America’s public and industrial infrastructure is based on the use of petroleum, natural gas and coal.  Nearly everyone drives a vehicle that burns gasoline or diesel fuel. Public transportation relies on fossil fuels as well. Natural gas, heating oil and coal are used in furnaces to heat homes and places of business. Coal and nuclear power generate electricity, which powers countless devices; the uses of which are taken for granted every day. Coal, natural gas and petroleum products power American’s industrial complex, the base of the American economic engine. America’s economy depends heavily on the existing sources of power. These methods of providing and consuming energy are all deeply ingrained into America’s business, manufacturing and home life.

Why does America continue spending hundreds of billions of dollars on foreign energy while America has undeveloped energy? Why not keep those billions of dollars at home, in America’s cash starved economy?

At a time when millions of Americans are looking for work, the economy is starving for liquid capital, and the IRS is in desperate need of revenue why not take advantage of America’s wealth of natural resources? Why not give Americans jobs drilling for oil and natural gas or digging for coal? Why not put people to work building refineries and power plants? Why not give energy employees jobs delivering gas, coal and natural gas to consumers? How many peripheral jobs will be created in the process? For every new oil well, power plant, refinery or mine there will be new infrastructure built, followed by grocery stores, restaurants, shopping malls, housing, schools, and everything else everyday Americans need for their lives.

All generated by the only force capable of powering America’s economic recovery: the private sector.

And none of those jobs could possibly be moved overseas.

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What I can not believe is all the people believing the lies about the global warming. In doing a search over the internet for the facts backing this up, the only ones I could find that did were the government paid metoroligist. The others that were not government paid showed that not only is the earth not heating up, over the last decade the earth has actually cooled down. So if it were up to me and I own a business like the ones they want to tax, I would say fine and shut it down. Now if all of the business' would call their bluff and do this, I bet the government would change their BS real fast.

 

this is what happens when states are taken over by a bunch of wack-jobs...california will probably go under financially within a few years with obamacare, unions, and the federl taxes, because as time goes on, more and more companies will be forced to leave. right now only about 35 percent of california tax payers, are keeping the states afloat, because of the high unemployment, welfare, and out of control spending in sacramento. now obama wants to tax these 35 percent, and so that may drop too. right now, there are about 5 cities just in california, that are financially bankrupt, and more cities are approaching that.....what in the hell goes on in the minds of these nitwits is beyond me, but the state is so unfriendly to anyone coming here it is pathetic.

THE ROADS LEAD EAST FROM ALL PARTS OF CALIFORNIA, WHY FEEL SORRY FOR ONE OF THE MOST GODLESS STATE IN THE COUNTRY. IT IS ONE OF THE DEVIL'S FAVORITE STATES. WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND. OUR HONEST HARD WORKING TAX PAYING PEOPLE WILL BE PAYING DOUBLE TAXES NATIONWIDE. THOSE WHO ARE CONSIDERED RICH WILL NOT PAY ANY TAXES.. WHEN THE RACIAL MUSLIM PUPPET IN THE WHITE HOUSE DESTROYS AMERICA. ALL THE SUPER RICH, SOROS, GATES, BUFFETT, ETC. WILL BE LIVING IN PLACES LIKE THE EXOTIC SOUTH PACIFIC. CIVIL WAR WILL BREAK OUT AS THE DEADBEATS ON WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS AND UNEMPLOYMENT START STEALING FROM THOSE TRUE AMERICANS WHO HAVE SAVED FOOD AND WATER. ONLY TRUE CHRISTIANS WILL BE THE WINNERS, BECAUSE OUR LORD LISTENS TO OUR PRAYERS.

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Pay-Back !!! Pedophile Who Assaulted Nearly 200 Kids Stabbed To Death In Prison

A convicted pedophile who abused almost 200 children was stabbed to death in North Yorkshire, England, on Sunday.

Richard Huckle, 33, from Ashford, Kent, was given 22 life sentences in 2016 after he admitted to sexually abusing 71 kids whose ages ranged from six months to 12 years between 2006 and 2014, according to the BBC.

The report said Huckle was attacked with a makeshift knife while inside his cell at the Full Sutton Prison.

At the pedophile’s trial in 2016, investigators said they found over 20,000 indecent photos and videos of his assaults, which were shared with other pedophiles via a site on the dark web called The Love Zone.

Reports said that prior to his arrest, Huckle posed as an English teacher and Christian volunteer worker in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, where he groomed impoverished children.

In one of his online posts, Huckle reportedly wrote “Impoverished kids are definitely much easier to seduce than middle-class Western kids.”

Reports said he attempted to make money from his crimes by crowdfunding the release of the photos.

“Huckle also created a 60-page ‘how-to’ guide for other pedophiles seeking to evade being caught, and kept a scorecard and points system regarding the children who were abused — leading investigators to speculate he may have as many as 200 victims,” a Fox News report stated.

At his sentencing in 2016, Judge Peter Rook condemned Huckle for his heinous crimes he said had become routine for the pedophile.

Rook commented:

Your offending behavior became entrenched in your everyday life. Your life revolved around your sexual activities with young children. Your distorted beliefs in respect of children are deep-seated. Your self-delusion knows no bounds. It is also clear that, had you not been arrested, you planned to continue the same lifestyle using the expertise that you were keen to show off to and share with other abusers so as to continue your sexual exploitation of the children of such communities.

Reports said prior to his death, Huckle refused to cooperate with authorities when they tried to unlock a cache of encrypted files he had access to that may contain the names of victims and other pedophiles, according to Fox News.

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