Are Republicans fooling themselves about ObamaCare?

 

When Washington conservatives gather to talk among themselves, and the discussion turns to Obamacare -- it happens pretty frequently -- it's not unusual to hear predictions that the president's health care law will "collapse of its own weight." It's a "train wreck," many say, quoting Democratic Sen. Max Baucus. It's unworkable. It's going to be a big, smoking ruin.

Some predict chaos beginning Oct. 1, when the law requires Obamacare exchanges, the online marketplaces in which people will be able to shop for insurance, to be up and running. And maybe that will happen; the day is a little more than two months off, and the administration seems far behind schedule in the work that needs to be done.

On the other hand, a lot of thoughtful conservatives are looking beyond Oct. 1 to Jan. 1, the day the law (except for the parts the president has unilaterally postponed) is scheduled to go fully into effect. On that day the government will begin subsidizing health insurance for millions of Americans. (A family of four with income as high as $88,000 will be eligible for subsidies.) When people begin receiving that entitlement, the dynamics of the Obamacare debate will change.

At that point, the Republican mantra of total repeal will become obsolete. The administration will mount a huge public relations campaign to highlight individuals who have received government assistance to help them afford, say, chemotherapy, or dialysis, or some other life-saving treatment. Will Republicans advocate cutting off the funds that help pay for such care?

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There is an old saying that the only certainties in life are death and taxes.  Now we can add the preferential treatment of obamacare to that list.  Why prefrential?  As this monster becomes reality, obama will exclude more and more special groups and expand his "rebates".  The huge public relations campaing has already began and will only grow bigger, all at the expense of tax payers and the money will be drained from medicare by Sebilas ro extorted from the companies she overlooks.  But then again, why should we care?  After all, "every one that needs medical coverage will be able to get it", which in reality is the biggest lie of them all because even with all the deals, the rebates, the schemes, millions will still be uninsured.

America, you got what you wanted when you elected this scum bag.  Its the rest of us, the unemployed, workers of two or more jobs to survive, that have to pay for your hope and dream president.

Ms. Choate, but had not the US Supreme court said that OBAMA CARE was a TAX.

Those who voted for it knew damn well it was a train wreck.

Why we even pay attention to anything these people say anymore is beyond me.

Why we remain obedient and allow their authority over us is even more amazing.

They knowingly screwed us and now they can knowingly unscrew us but they won't.

They INSIST we live with the TYRANNY they IMPOSED on us.

http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/11/18/valerie-jarrett-there-will...

Hell to pay huh Val?

Right back at ya babe.

Ah!  you forget, Pelosi's famous words:  "Let's pass it to find out what's in it".  No one read it.

Right, just like they want to do with Amnesty, ram it through before anyone really knows what's in it. (Except the ones ramming it through.)

I heard she was talking about a bowel movement but we misunderstood when she misspoke and at what point does it  really make a difference (matter) anyway?

I think you are fooling yourselves that defunding it will solve the problem.  It has to be repealed.

Yes, they are fooling themselves but not fooling we the people.

They are pushing their base to the libertarian/conservative movement.

Only true Republicans will vote to defund Obamacare. The rest are simply RINOS. They have no standing and are gutless.

Mr. Hahn, I do so agree with your statement, just one question how many republicans have the TESTOSTERONE to vote their common sense feelings.

And don't forget, Bruce.......we must find a way to get these useless lumps of flesh out of office.  They are totally worthless and even dangerous......they have to go if this country is to survive!

I've noted that Karl Rove has gone public with his poo-pooing the Heritage Foundation assessment that Senator Lee's defunding effort is useless. There is outright lying going on regarding Obamacare. My opinion is defund the US budget at the end of September and defund Obamacare from the budget. To permit it to be funded, hoping that it will collapse is wishful thinking.

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 Rush Limbaugh: Hillary Just Admitted To Everything
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(TeaParty.org) – Rush Limbaugh, the godfather of conservative punditry, has a hait of being right.

And he’s well aware of this.

During a recent show, the commentator pointed out that Hillary Clinton had recently confirmed everything he’s been saying about Democrats for years.

Clinton, whose recent interview with CNN journalist Christiane Amanpour made headlines for many of the stunning things she said, also made a call for non-civility because the Democrats are not in power.

“You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about,” she said. “That’s why I believe, if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again. But until then, the only thing that the Republicans seem to recognize and respect is strength.”

“(Hillary) pretty much admitted everything I have been trying to warn people of about the American left and the Democrat Party!” Limbaugh responded on his show.

“She went out and in her best Maxine Waters impersonation,” he continued. “She was encouraging people to be uncivil, and she was saying that it was justified being uncivil, given the opposition, the Republicans.”

Rush is well-aware that Democrats have only been feining civility whenever it suits their desperate pursuit of power.

“(I)f they win the House, then they can go back to being civil. If they win the Senate, then they can return to civility,” he summed up Clinton’s position.

“I mean, they’re making the case, they’re proving the point .… In all of this crazy, deranged, unhinged behavior of left-wing activists, I haven’t heard one elected Democrat denounce it,” he explained. “I haven’t heard one elected Democrat attempt to distance himself or herself or the party from it.”

The behavior he speaks of has been on full display in the attempt by an angry mob to disrupt Ted and Heidi Cruz’s dinner last month, and the angry mob that tried to knock down the 30-ton doors to the Supreme Court when Brett Kavanaugh was sworn in.

This is not a change in the tenor of Democrats, Limbaugh explained, but only them showing their true colors.

“They are all encouraging it. My point is: This is who they all are — and with Hillary Clinton now advocating this incivility,” he said.

“What did I tell you yesterday? We’re not in a battle of ideas anymore. We’re not in an argument over ideas,” he continued. “They don’t… They’re not even looking at any of this as about ideas.”

He explained that the right and the left vary not just in ideology, but in their fundmantal view of America.

“They see America today as flawed and illegitimate and, therefore, in need of a new set of defining values that will serve to unify the people who want to be part of America,” he continued.

“Not anything to do with our founding. Not the Constitution. Not the Declaration. That’s out the window ’cause all that’s tainted,” he said, explaining the way the left sees things. “All of that was written by a bunch of privileged white guys who were setting up a system for themselves and their families and their descendants.”

But we don’t even need Limbaugh to explain this…this comes right from the horse’s mouth:

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Rush Limbaugh: Hillary Literally Just Came Clean on Everything I’ve Been Saying About the Left

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo recently declared that “America was never great.”

Michelle Obama claimed to have never been proud of her country until they elected her husband.

Her husband openly admitted he wanted to “fundamentally transform” our country.

Maxine Waters refuses to backtrack on her call to harass GOP lawmakers in public.

All this while Antia wages war on anyone they disagree with, armed with whatever makeshift weapon the can scrape together.

They’re telling is what they’re up to. It’s time to start listening.

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