Are Republicans fooling themselves about ObamaCare?

 

When Washington conservatives gather to talk among themselves, and the discussion turns to Obamacare -- it happens pretty frequently -- it's not unusual to hear predictions that the president's health care law will "collapse of its own weight." It's a "train wreck," many say, quoting Democratic Sen. Max Baucus. It's unworkable. It's going to be a big, smoking ruin.

Some predict chaos beginning Oct. 1, when the law requires Obamacare exchanges, the online marketplaces in which people will be able to shop for insurance, to be up and running. And maybe that will happen; the day is a little more than two months off, and the administration seems far behind schedule in the work that needs to be done.

On the other hand, a lot of thoughtful conservatives are looking beyond Oct. 1 to Jan. 1, the day the law (except for the parts the president has unilaterally postponed) is scheduled to go fully into effect. On that day the government will begin subsidizing health insurance for millions of Americans. (A family of four with income as high as $88,000 will be eligible for subsidies.) When people begin receiving that entitlement, the dynamics of the Obamacare debate will change.

At that point, the Republican mantra of total repeal will become obsolete. The administration will mount a huge public relations campaign to highlight individuals who have received government assistance to help them afford, say, chemotherapy, or dialysis, or some other life-saving treatment. Will Republicans advocate cutting off the funds that help pay for such care?

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There is an old saying that the only certainties in life are death and taxes.  Now we can add the preferential treatment of obamacare to that list.  Why prefrential?  As this monster becomes reality, obama will exclude more and more special groups and expand his "rebates".  The huge public relations campaing has already began and will only grow bigger, all at the expense of tax payers and the money will be drained from medicare by Sebilas ro extorted from the companies she overlooks.  But then again, why should we care?  After all, "every one that needs medical coverage will be able to get it", which in reality is the biggest lie of them all because even with all the deals, the rebates, the schemes, millions will still be uninsured.

America, you got what you wanted when you elected this scum bag.  Its the rest of us, the unemployed, workers of two or more jobs to survive, that have to pay for your hope and dream president.

Ms. Choate, but had not the US Supreme court said that OBAMA CARE was a TAX.

Those who voted for it knew damn well it was a train wreck.

Why we even pay attention to anything these people say anymore is beyond me.

Why we remain obedient and allow their authority over us is even more amazing.

They knowingly screwed us and now they can knowingly unscrew us but they won't.

They INSIST we live with the TYRANNY they IMPOSED on us.

http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/11/18/valerie-jarrett-there-will...

Hell to pay huh Val?

Right back at ya babe.

Ah!  you forget, Pelosi's famous words:  "Let's pass it to find out what's in it".  No one read it.

Right, just like they want to do with Amnesty, ram it through before anyone really knows what's in it. (Except the ones ramming it through.)

I heard she was talking about a bowel movement but we misunderstood when she misspoke and at what point does it  really make a difference (matter) anyway?

I think you are fooling yourselves that defunding it will solve the problem.  It has to be repealed.

Yes, they are fooling themselves but not fooling we the people.

They are pushing their base to the libertarian/conservative movement.

Only true Republicans will vote to defund Obamacare. The rest are simply RINOS. They have no standing and are gutless.

Mr. Hahn, I do so agree with your statement, just one question how many republicans have the TESTOSTERONE to vote their common sense feelings.

And don't forget, Bruce.......we must find a way to get these useless lumps of flesh out of office.  They are totally worthless and even dangerous......they have to go if this country is to survive!

I've noted that Karl Rove has gone public with his poo-pooing the Heritage Foundation assessment that Senator Lee's defunding effort is useless. There is outright lying going on regarding Obamacare. My opinion is defund the US budget at the end of September and defund Obamacare from the budget. To permit it to be funded, hoping that it will collapse is wishful thinking.

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Democrat Sen. Chris Murphy: ‘The Real Second Amendment Isn’t Absolute

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) tweeted Saturday there is a “real” Second Amendment and an “imaginary” one and he believes the real one is “not absolute.”

Murphy, “I support the real 2nd Amendment, not the imaginary 2nd Amendment. And the real 2nd Amendment isn’t absolute.”

The statement was a precursor to his call for banning “assault rifles” in the wake of the Santa Fe High School shooting, even though “assault rifles” were not used in the attack.

Murphy said the “real 2nd Amendment…allows Congress to wake up to reality and ban these assault rifles that are designed for one purpose only – to kill as many people as fast as possible.”

Gov. Greg Abbott (R-TX) said the Santa Fe High School attackers used a .38 revolver and a shotgun to carry out his heinous acts. Therefore, a ban on “assault rifles” would have done nothing to prevent the attack from occurring or the tragic loss of life from taking place.

It should be noted that Saturday was not the first time Sen. Murphy called the essence of the Second Amendment into question. On August 6, 2013, Breitbart News reported that Murphy told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow that “The Second Amendment is not an absolute right, not a God-given right. It has always had conditions upon it like the First Amendment has.”

Murphy did not grapple with the words, “Shall not be infringed.”

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