While Obamacare’s proponents continue to insist that the program presents no threat to Americans’ healthcare, new comments from Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber demonstrate that Obamacare was designed to do just that. Gruber stated:

You get a law which said healthy people are going to pay in, it made explicit that healthy people pay and sick people get money, it would not have passed…Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically, that was really, really critical to get this thing to pass.

In other words, yes, Obamacare redistributes healthcare. Yes, Obamacare will endanger people who cannot afford healthcare because they are young and healthy, all in order to pay for government benefits for those who are sick. And yes, in order to control the resulting costs, care will have to be cut for the elderly. Gruber isn’t the only Obamacare architect to tell the truth about Obamacare’s view of redistribution. Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, who has said that he wishes to die at age 75, wrote in February 2008 in the Journal of the American Medical Association:

Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality of care are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change.

He added that the Hippocratic Oath was to blame, since it encourages doctors to care for the patients before them without concern for “cost or effect on others.” He told the Washington Post, “We had a big controversy in the United States when there was a limited number of dialysis machines. In Seattle, they appointed what they called a 'God committee' to choose who should get it, and that committee was eventually abandoned. Society ended up paying the whole bill for dialysis instead of having people make those decisions.”

If the idea of a God committee sounds rather like Sarah Palin’s death panel, that’s because that’s what it is.

Then there’s former Clinton Labor Secretary and Obama economic advisor Robert Reich, who explained in September 2007:

“if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive...so we're going to let you die."

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misspent monies on developing a failed Obamacare... how many dialysis machines would just that amount have bought?

So who is really throwing grandma over the cliff now idiots who voted for OB . You were told years ago what would happen to the elderly if OB care passes and you didn't listen

The facts do not support the words used here!

Obamacare is not going to kill anyone!

It is just not going to spend money to save them even if it were possible !

Sometimes death is the best option !  [when Quality of life is gone and not coming back]

When that happens into my Lords loving arms I shell GO !   Do not try and stop me!

"Obamacare is not going to kill anyone! It is just not gong to spend money to save them even if it were possible !"

It is also going to deny choices and resources which could prolong their lives even if the patient or family is willing and able to pay for it. Think of it this way. Someone over 80 gets shot and is in critical condition; Obamacare says it will not reimburse the doctors and if a doctor saves the patient, the doctor will be penalized. Perhaps the person will otherwise live to 100 and be productive, only God can know that, so you can invoke the name of God, but Obamacare is playing god, trying to decide who shall live and who shall not be allowed to live. You say you want the choice when you tell us don't try to stop you, so why are you so ready to deny choice to others?  Denying choice is what Obamacare does. 

I did not say I supported anything about Obamacare!

The golden rule applies !

He who owns the gold makes the rules!

So the wealthy will always find Medical care even if it is in some foreign Land!

It will be the middle class that is left to die on Scheduled. 

My point is that Most people Think medical care is essential , I do not worship at that alter!

No cancer treatment for over 70 yo. I am an amazing 69 yo with huge quality of life and I do not want to die of stupid skin cancer or something to make way for YOU!

We knew that.    Illegals get better care than our seniors and our veterans!     Put the king himself, Biden, Pelosi, Gutierrez and the other treasonous swine on this healthcare bill.    It is all about government control.......the 40 million people he is looking to legalize will not resist tyranny!    That is why he wants them so badly!     That is 40 million more democrats that Americans have to support !

God should decide, not a creep like Obama !

Have you heard of the "American Federal Church"?  According to them Obama IS God!

This whole thing was designed to destroy our commerce, and remove our money before it removes our lives.

This legislation does to the American people what Nazi Germany did to it's people at the point of a gun. And a lot more efficiently. Soldiers going door-to-door removing items of worth and then sending people off to die in labor camps manned by a Warden/Commandant and armed guards, etc. With Obamacare you don't need any of that. Take all your money thru crazy taxes like the "marriage tax" and a 3.8% tax when you sell your home. This hits seniors a lot who want to downsize when they have no kids left at home. Then of course deny life-extending or life-saving treatment/drugs, etc. Having a bean counter/bureaucrat decide if the "budget" allows your treatment instead of your own doctor is horrible. Extremely viscous people thought this up and pushed this thru with the signature of an illegal criminal psychopath acting as POTUS. 

There was nothing wrong with our healthcare system before except how fraud was allowed to happen. Pre-existing conditions are a joke. That's what you need the insurance to cover. Open up competition across state lines and actually enforce violations when they happen. 

Glad to hear Lynda. Nazis also had their version of Homeland Security just like Bush gave us. 

Dictator Obamacare has nothing to do with health care.

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Joe Biden On Violence Against Women:   We Have To Keep ‘Punching At It, And Punching At It, And Punching At It’

 The audience laughed as he said this.

Former Vice President Joe Biden said that America needs to be “punching” back to combat violence against women during Wednesday’s Democratic debate.

Biden was asked if he would tackle specific issues regarding the #MeToo movement at the beginning of his presidency, if he were to be elected. The former vice president previously sponsored the 1994 Violence Against Women Act (VAWA), which aimed to protect victims of domestic violence.

The presidential candidate responded to the question about assaulting women by using the phrase “punching” repeatedly, apparently not thinking about the implications of using such a word.

“No man has a right to raise a hand to a woman in anger other than in self-defense, and that rarely ever occurs,” Biden said. “So we have to just change the culture, period, and keep punching at it and punching at it and punching at it. No, I really mean it.”

A few people laughed in the audience as he said this.

Biden added that it is important to pass the Violence Against Women Act, which has passed in the House and held up in the Senate. The former Vice President also suggested that America has to “fundamentally change the culture” of how women are treated, noting that it is “everyone’s responsibility.”

“It’s a gigantic issue, and we have to make it clear from the top, from the president on down that we will not tolerate it,” Biden said. “We will not tolerate this culture.”

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